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    • KilemallK
      Kilemall Careful, railroad agent
      last edited by

      Oh I suppose this is absolutely horrible, but I feel compelled to ask-

      can you make those trains more American?

      Those look like European locomotives, the 1870s locomotives that would have been around at the same time as the seal creation looked like this-

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      These are actual Kansas Pacific pics from the 1870s.

      Slpr, here is a real Hell on Wheels pic of the KP building-

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      They just started tearing up the old Burnham Yard a month ago, the Denver KP yard from the 1870s that had lasted all the way until now- the roundhouse above is at the approximate site of the current surviving one in KC.

      Here is Hotfink’s hometown’s reason to exist- the junction where the rails first swung south to Texas.

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      Can’t help myself, it just looks wrong.

      Oh, I have a HORRIBLY magnificent idea and request.

      One of the things the KP did was instigate a slaughter of the buffalo, because they were a huge nuisance and cost to operations (and cut off the Plains Indian from their food source, but mostly it was all those buffalo messing up schedules.

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      Once the buffalo were out of the way, all those cheap longhorns from Texas could be driven up to the railheads in Kansas for shipping out, thus both helping to create the American taste for beef, and the enduring legend of the cowboy.

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      So, if you could, have that middle train have a shooting party on board gunning down the buffalo in the field.

      That depiction would not go over well in Kansas, but it is a LOT more accurate and fits with the terror of trains motif and my Duchy’s philosophy of an unflinching look at history.

      https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

      Never go full Lithu-
      Twain

      No editing is gonna save you now-
      Wingmann

      http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

      http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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      • WhoofeW
        Whoofe Gold
        last edited by

        Kansas, built on skulls of buffalo…

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        If no set of moral ideas were truer or better than any other, there would be no sense in preferring civilized morality to savage morality, or Christian morality to Nazi morality. In fact, of course, we all do believe that some moralities are better than others . . . . The moment you say that one set of moral ideas can be better than another, you are, in fact, measuring them both by a standard . . . admitting that there is such a thing as a real Right, independent of what people think, and that some people's ideas get nearer to that real Right than others."

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        • KilemallK
          Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Jam
          last edited by

          @Jam said in I need an actual icon:

          @tigger

          I personally like the Coat of Arms, but there is an incongruity evident.

          The locomotives depicted are European designs. The upper one looks like a GWR 4200 class tank engine. Were it not for the prototypical GWR safety bonnet, it may well be a British Railways Standard 4 Prairie tank.

          The lower locomotive is a 4-6-0 although it could be a 4-6-2 Gresley Pacific if the trailing bogie is obscured by steam. It appears to be pulling a British Pullman coach.

          But otherwise, pretty good drawing!

          Hahah, ya I spotted that right away, and had to ask to change it, just cause- took me awhile to find the right pics.

          https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

          Never go full Lithu-
          Twain

          No editing is gonna save you now-
          Wingmann

          http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

          http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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          • KilemallK
            Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Whoofe
            last edited by

            @Whoofe said in I need an actual icon:

            Kansas, built on skulls of buffalo…

            VERY much so.

            Almost to extinction.

            Buffalo in Kansas - Kansapedia - Kansas Historical Society

            https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

            Never go full Lithu-
            Twain

            No editing is gonna save you now-
            Wingmann

            http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

            http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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            • PakoonP
              Pakoon
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              Buffalo meat is über.

              ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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              • tiggerT
                tigger @Jam
                last edited by

                @Jam said in I need an actual icon:

                @tigger

                I personally like the Coat of Arms, but there is an incongruity evident.

                The locomotives depicted are European designs. The upper one looks like a GWR 4200 class tank engine. Were it not for the prototypical GWR safety bonnet, it may well be a British Railways Standard 4 Prairie tank.

                The lower locomotive is a 4-6-0 although it could be a 4-6-2 Gresley Pacific if the trailing bogie is obscured by steam. It appears to be pulling a British Pullman coach.

                But otherwise, pretty good drawing!

                Aaah! Another railroad agent! They are everywhere!!! Lithu, what did you do??

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                • PakoonP
                  Pakoon @tigger
                  last edited by

                  @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                  @Jam said in I need an actual icon:

                  @tigger

                  I personally like the Coat of Arms, but there is an incongruity evident.

                  The locomotives depicted are European designs. The upper one looks like a GWR 4200 class tank engine. Were it not for the prototypical GWR safety bonnet, it may well be a British Railways Standard 4 Prairie tank.

                  The lower locomotive is a 4-6-0 although it could be a 4-6-2 Gresley Pacific if the trailing bogie is obscured by steam. It appears to be pulling a British Pullman coach.

                  But otherwise, pretty good drawing!

                  Aaah! Another railroad agent! They are everywhere!!! Lithu, what did you do??

                  Hmmm I suspect Lithu’s secret title is Agente de Ferrocarriles de Cuba Communista

                  ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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                  • tiggerT
                    tigger @Pakoon
                    last edited by

                    @Pakoon said in I need an actual icon:

                    @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                    @Jam said in I need an actual icon:

                    @tigger

                    I personally like the Coat of Arms, but there is an incongruity evident.

                    The locomotives depicted are European designs. The upper one looks like a GWR 4200 class tank engine. Were it not for the prototypical GWR safety bonnet, it may well be a British Railways Standard 4 Prairie tank.

                    The lower locomotive is a 4-6-0 although it could be a 4-6-2 Gresley Pacific if the trailing bogie is obscured by steam. It appears to be pulling a British Pullman coach.

                    But otherwise, pretty good drawing!

                    Aaah! Another railroad agent! They are everywhere!!! Lithu, what did you do??

                    Hmmm I suspect Lithu’s secret title is Agente de Ferrocarriles de Cuba Communista

                    Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Not Lithuuuu!!!

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                    • KilemallK
                      Kilemall Careful, railroad agent
                      last edited by

                      Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                      https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                      Never go full Lithu-
                      Twain

                      No editing is gonna save you now-
                      Wingmann

                      http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

                      http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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                      • tiggerT
                        tigger @Kilemall
                        last edited by

                        @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                        Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                        It’s on my to-do list!

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                          dinobot @tigger
                          last edited by

                          @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                          @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                          Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                          It’s on my to-do list!

                          dont do it, let them suffer with having to look at superior commie trains!!!

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                          • WhoofeW
                            Whoofe Gold @dinobot
                            last edited by

                            @dinobot said in I need an actual icon:

                            @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                            @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                            Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                            It’s on my to-do list!

                            dont do it, let them suffer with having to look at superior commie trains!!!

                            dino needs an icon

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                            If no set of moral ideas were truer or better than any other, there would be no sense in preferring civilized morality to savage morality, or Christian morality to Nazi morality. In fact, of course, we all do believe that some moralities are better than others . . . . The moment you say that one set of moral ideas can be better than another, you are, in fact, measuring them both by a standard . . . admitting that there is such a thing as a real Right, independent of what people think, and that some people's ideas get nearer to that real Right than others."

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                            • PakoonP
                              Pakoon @Whoofe
                              last edited by

                              @Whoofe said in I need an actual icon:

                              @dinobot said in I need an actual icon:

                              @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                              @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                              Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                              It’s on my to-do list!

                              dont do it, let them suffer with having to look at superior commie trains!!!

                              dino needs an icon

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                              ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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                              • Gators1G
                                Gators1 @Whoofe
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                                @Whoofe said in I need an actual icon:

                                @dinobot said in I need an actual icon:

                                @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                                @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                                Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                                It’s on my to-do list!

                                dont do it, let them suffer with having to look at superior commie trains!!!

                                dino needs an icon

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                                  A Former User @Gators1
                                  last edited by

                                  @Gators1

                                  Is that caption, Lithu to the rescue!..Oh wait…

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                                  • StuS
                                    Stu @Gators1
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                                    @Gators1 said in I need an actual icon:

                                    @Whoofe said in I need an actual icon:

                                    @dinobot said in I need an actual icon:

                                    @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                                    @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                                    Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                                    It’s on my to-do list!

                                    dont do it, let them suffer with having to look at superior commie trains!!!

                                    dino needs an icon

                                    alt text

                                    Is that like a modern day viking funeral?

                                    It is easy to do justice - very hard to do right

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                                    • tiggerT
                                      tigger @Stu
                                      last edited by

                                      @Stu said in I need an actual icon:

                                      @Gators1 said in I need an actual icon:

                                      @Whoofe said in I need an actual icon:

                                      @dinobot said in I need an actual icon:

                                      @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                                      @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                                      Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                                      It’s on my to-do list!

                                      dont do it, let them suffer with having to look at superior commie trains!!!

                                      dino needs an icon

                                      alt text

                                      Is that like a modern day viking funeral?

                                      No, it is just a normal daily routine.

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