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    • WhoofeW
      Whoofe Gold
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      those trains will collide off screen

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      If no set of moral ideas were truer or better than any other, there would be no sense in preferring civilized morality to savage morality, or Christian morality to Nazi morality. In fact, of course, we all do believe that some moralities are better than others . . . . The moment you say that one set of moral ideas can be better than another, you are, in fact, measuring them both by a standard . . . admitting that there is such a thing as a real Right, independent of what people think, and that some people's ideas get nearer to that real Right than others."

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      • KilemallK
        Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @tigger
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        @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

        @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

        @Stu said in I need an actual icon:

        @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

        The cool people opt for the minimalism of the colored letter, letting the high value of their posting stand for their own branding.

        That’s fine for the cool people, but what’s your plan?

        True, I am cooler then cool, I may have to take it up a notch to meet expectations.

        Why don’t you use the Duchy of Kansas coat-of-arms?

        http://100acrewood.org/stuff/kansas.png

        Ho ho HOLEE CRAP!

        Where- how- what.

        I don’t know whether to sob with joy or nuke Sweden.

        This is scary.

        For those unaware of Tigger’s little mind nuke, I had a nation state in that policy game called the Duchy of Kansas, and referred to myself as the Duke of Kansas in OT whenever issues of OT sovereignty arose.

        Then, there is the matter of the actual Kansas state seal- Tigger managed to mix in trains into very much the state seal motif-

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_Kansas

        Which is also on the flag-

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        Oh WAIT A MINUTE- he was doing the state coat of arms, which I have never seen before-

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        Actually, Tigger’s version is probably more accurate, the state didn’t really take off until the railroads crisscrossed it.

        Terrifying.

        Right in my head.

        Thank you.

        Curse you.

        https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

        Never go full Lithu-
        Twain

        No editing is gonna save you now-
        Wingmann

        http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

        http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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        • JamJ
          Jam @tigger
          last edited by

          @tigger

          I personally like the Coat of Arms, but there is an incongruity evident.

          The locomotives depicted are European designs. The upper one looks like a GWR 4200 class tank engine. Were it not for the prototypical GWR safety bonnet, it may well be a British Railways Standard 4 Prairie tank.

          The lower locomotive is a 4-6-0 although it could be a 4-6-2 Gresley Pacific if the trailing bogie is obscured by steam. It appears to be pulling a British Pullman coach.

          But otherwise, pretty good drawing!

          "laissez les bons temps rouler!"

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          • KilemallK
            Kilemall Careful, railroad agent
            last edited by

            Oh I suppose this is absolutely horrible, but I feel compelled to ask-

            can you make those trains more American?

            Those look like European locomotives, the 1870s locomotives that would have been around at the same time as the seal creation looked like this-

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            These are actual Kansas Pacific pics from the 1870s.

            Slpr, here is a real Hell on Wheels pic of the KP building-

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            They just started tearing up the old Burnham Yard a month ago, the Denver KP yard from the 1870s that had lasted all the way until now- the roundhouse above is at the approximate site of the current surviving one in KC.

            Here is Hotfink’s hometown’s reason to exist- the junction where the rails first swung south to Texas.

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            Can’t help myself, it just looks wrong.

            Oh, I have a HORRIBLY magnificent idea and request.

            One of the things the KP did was instigate a slaughter of the buffalo, because they were a huge nuisance and cost to operations (and cut off the Plains Indian from their food source, but mostly it was all those buffalo messing up schedules.

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            Once the buffalo were out of the way, all those cheap longhorns from Texas could be driven up to the railheads in Kansas for shipping out, thus both helping to create the American taste for beef, and the enduring legend of the cowboy.

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            So, if you could, have that middle train have a shooting party on board gunning down the buffalo in the field.

            That depiction would not go over well in Kansas, but it is a LOT more accurate and fits with the terror of trains motif and my Duchy’s philosophy of an unflinching look at history.

            https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

            Never go full Lithu-
            Twain

            No editing is gonna save you now-
            Wingmann

            http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

            http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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            • WhoofeW
              Whoofe Gold
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              Kansas, built on skulls of buffalo…

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              If no set of moral ideas were truer or better than any other, there would be no sense in preferring civilized morality to savage morality, or Christian morality to Nazi morality. In fact, of course, we all do believe that some moralities are better than others . . . . The moment you say that one set of moral ideas can be better than another, you are, in fact, measuring them both by a standard . . . admitting that there is such a thing as a real Right, independent of what people think, and that some people's ideas get nearer to that real Right than others."

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              • KilemallK
                Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Jam
                last edited by

                @Jam said in I need an actual icon:

                @tigger

                I personally like the Coat of Arms, but there is an incongruity evident.

                The locomotives depicted are European designs. The upper one looks like a GWR 4200 class tank engine. Were it not for the prototypical GWR safety bonnet, it may well be a British Railways Standard 4 Prairie tank.

                The lower locomotive is a 4-6-0 although it could be a 4-6-2 Gresley Pacific if the trailing bogie is obscured by steam. It appears to be pulling a British Pullman coach.

                But otherwise, pretty good drawing!

                Hahah, ya I spotted that right away, and had to ask to change it, just cause- took me awhile to find the right pics.

                https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                Never go full Lithu-
                Twain

                No editing is gonna save you now-
                Wingmann

                http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

                http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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                • KilemallK
                  Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Whoofe
                  last edited by

                  @Whoofe said in I need an actual icon:

                  Kansas, built on skulls of buffalo…

                  VERY much so.

                  Almost to extinction.

                  https://www.kshs.org/kansapedia/buffalo-in-kansas/15602

                  https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                  Never go full Lithu-
                  Twain

                  No editing is gonna save you now-
                  Wingmann

                  http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

                  http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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                  • PakoonP
                    Pakoon
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                    Buffalo meat is über.

                    ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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                    • tiggerT
                      tigger @Jam
                      last edited by

                      @Jam said in I need an actual icon:

                      @tigger

                      I personally like the Coat of Arms, but there is an incongruity evident.

                      The locomotives depicted are European designs. The upper one looks like a GWR 4200 class tank engine. Were it not for the prototypical GWR safety bonnet, it may well be a British Railways Standard 4 Prairie tank.

                      The lower locomotive is a 4-6-0 although it could be a 4-6-2 Gresley Pacific if the trailing bogie is obscured by steam. It appears to be pulling a British Pullman coach.

                      But otherwise, pretty good drawing!

                      Aaah! Another railroad agent! They are everywhere!!! Lithu, what did you do??

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                      • PakoonP
                        Pakoon @tigger
                        last edited by

                        @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                        @Jam said in I need an actual icon:

                        @tigger

                        I personally like the Coat of Arms, but there is an incongruity evident.

                        The locomotives depicted are European designs. The upper one looks like a GWR 4200 class tank engine. Were it not for the prototypical GWR safety bonnet, it may well be a British Railways Standard 4 Prairie tank.

                        The lower locomotive is a 4-6-0 although it could be a 4-6-2 Gresley Pacific if the trailing bogie is obscured by steam. It appears to be pulling a British Pullman coach.

                        But otherwise, pretty good drawing!

                        Aaah! Another railroad agent! They are everywhere!!! Lithu, what did you do??

                        Hmmm I suspect Lithu’s secret title is Agente de Ferrocarriles de Cuba Communista

                        ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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                        • tiggerT
                          tigger @Pakoon
                          last edited by

                          @Pakoon said in I need an actual icon:

                          @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                          @Jam said in I need an actual icon:

                          @tigger

                          I personally like the Coat of Arms, but there is an incongruity evident.

                          The locomotives depicted are European designs. The upper one looks like a GWR 4200 class tank engine. Were it not for the prototypical GWR safety bonnet, it may well be a British Railways Standard 4 Prairie tank.

                          The lower locomotive is a 4-6-0 although it could be a 4-6-2 Gresley Pacific if the trailing bogie is obscured by steam. It appears to be pulling a British Pullman coach.

                          But otherwise, pretty good drawing!

                          Aaah! Another railroad agent! They are everywhere!!! Lithu, what did you do??

                          Hmmm I suspect Lithu’s secret title is Agente de Ferrocarriles de Cuba Communista

                          Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Not Lithuuuu!!!

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                          • KilemallK
                            Kilemall Careful, railroad agent
                            last edited by

                            Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                            https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                            Never go full Lithu-
                            Twain

                            No editing is gonna save you now-
                            Wingmann

                            http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

                            http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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                            • tiggerT
                              tigger @Kilemall
                              last edited by

                              @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                              Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                              It’s on my to-do list!

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                              • D
                                dinobot @tigger
                                last edited by

                                @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                                @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                                Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                                It’s on my to-do list!

                                dont do it, let them suffer with having to look at superior commie trains!!!

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                                • WhoofeW
                                  Whoofe Gold @dinobot
                                  last edited by

                                  @dinobot said in I need an actual icon:

                                  @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                                  @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                                  Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                                  It’s on my to-do list!

                                  dont do it, let them suffer with having to look at superior commie trains!!!

                                  dino needs an icon

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                                  If no set of moral ideas were truer or better than any other, there would be no sense in preferring civilized morality to savage morality, or Christian morality to Nazi morality. In fact, of course, we all do believe that some moralities are better than others . . . . The moment you say that one set of moral ideas can be better than another, you are, in fact, measuring them both by a standard . . . admitting that there is such a thing as a real Right, independent of what people think, and that some people's ideas get nearer to that real Right than others."

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                                  • PakoonP
                                    Pakoon @Whoofe
                                    last edited by

                                    @Whoofe said in I need an actual icon:

                                    @dinobot said in I need an actual icon:

                                    @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                                    @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                                    Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                                    It’s on my to-do list!

                                    dont do it, let them suffer with having to look at superior commie trains!!!

                                    dino needs an icon

                                    alt text

                                    ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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                                    • Gators1G
                                      Gators1 @Whoofe
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                                      @Whoofe said in I need an actual icon:

                                      @dinobot said in I need an actual icon:

                                      @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                                      @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                                      Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                                      It’s on my to-do list!

                                      dont do it, let them suffer with having to look at superior commie trains!!!

                                      dino needs an icon

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User @Gators1
                                        last edited by

                                        @Gators1

                                        Is that caption, Lithu to the rescue!..Oh wait…

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                                        • StuS
                                          Stu @Gators1
                                          last edited by

                                          @Gators1 said in I need an actual icon:

                                          @Whoofe said in I need an actual icon:

                                          @dinobot said in I need an actual icon:

                                          @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                                          @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                                          Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                                          It’s on my to-do list!

                                          dont do it, let them suffer with having to look at superior commie trains!!!

                                          dino needs an icon

                                          alt text

                                          Is that like a modern day viking funeral?

                                          It is easy to do justice - very hard to do right

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                                          • tiggerT
                                            tigger @Stu
                                            last edited by

                                            @Stu said in I need an actual icon:

                                            @Gators1 said in I need an actual icon:

                                            @Whoofe said in I need an actual icon:

                                            @dinobot said in I need an actual icon:

                                            @tigger said in I need an actual icon:

                                            @Kilemall said in I need an actual icon:

                                            Pretty please on the locomotive/buffalo shooting redo?

                                            It’s on my to-do list!

                                            dont do it, let them suffer with having to look at superior commie trains!!!

                                            dino needs an icon

                                            alt text

                                            Is that like a modern day viking funeral?

                                            No, it is just a normal daily routine.

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