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    • ?
      A Former User @Tazz
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      @Tazz said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

      @Zeppelin Invite them in here.

      They all use jitterbug phones

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      • tiggerT
        tigger @Tazz
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        @Tazz said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

        @Zeppelin needs to try this at work

        It’s the slow and careful drag that gets me…

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        • TazzT
          Tazz @tigger
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          @tigger It requires perfect aim and timing. :)
          Missed waste basket

          GTFO

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          • JamJ
            Jam @Tazz
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            @Tazz said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

            @Zeppelin needs to try this at work

            Undelete is going to be a real bitch!

            "laissez les bons temps rouler!"

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            • Gators1G
              Gators1
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              how NASA writes space-proof code

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              • TazzT
                Tazz
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                GTFO

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                • ?
                  A Former User
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                  It just occurred to me today with India recently becoming the most populous country on earth, their odd English grammar might one day become the norm. It doesn’t bother me normally but, for some reason, it irritates me in technical discussion. For example, Indian programmers on Reddit keep saying “codes” (plural) for source code or programs.

                  And then there’s this phrase which someone used with me in Teams today and it’s not the first time I’ve heard it:

                  ok…ill take a pull and the same

                  I have no idea wtf that even means. I’m guessing he’ll create a pull request? I dunno.

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                  • Gators1G
                    Gators1 @A Former User
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                    @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                    I have no idea wtf that even means. I’m guessing he’ll create a pull request? I dunno.

                    Or jerking off?

                    I doubt they influence the rest of the world because they don’t make any entertainment worth watching and that’s how accents and vocab spread beyond their border. Even the stuff they do make that’s worth watching to some, like programming youtubes, is unwatchable to many other English speakers.

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                    • Gators1G
                      Gators1
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                      I don’t know where this goes, so will dump it here. Reddit wants to get paid for AI developers to scrape their platform to train their models. They commercialized their API, which was free to everyone before. Now users are pissed off because the Reddit apps suck ass, making the platform unusable for some (especially sub moderators). Some are even claiming ownership of the content as they create the conversations that Reddit is trying to sell. Many are threatening to jump to another platform, though I don’t know what that will be. Seems like Reddit could have tailored their API license to target AI companies specifically, leaving it open for others like app developers and individuals/students to play with.

                      Jon Porter  /  Jun 5, 2023  /  internet-censorship

                      Major Reddit communities will go dark to protest threat to third-party apps

                      Major Reddit communities will go dark to protest threat to third-party apps

                      Moderators say third-party apps are essential for their work.

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                      • WhoofeW
                        Whoofe Gold
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                        ^it doesnt go here. find another place and move it

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                        If no set of moral ideas were truer or better than any other, there would be no sense in preferring civilized morality to savage morality, or Christian morality to Nazi morality. In fact, of course, we all do believe that some moralities are better than others . . . . The moment you say that one set of moral ideas can be better than another, you are, in fact, measuring them both by a standard . . . admitting that there is such a thing as a real Right, independent of what people think, and that some people's ideas get nearer to that real Right than others."

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                        • Gators1G
                          Gators1 @Whoofe
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                          @Whoofe said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                          ^it doesnt go here. find another place and move it

                          You sound like Silky, a mod wannabe!

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                          • ?
                            A Former User
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                            I wish it would occur to someone at Microsoft that they don’t have to hit my CPU hard for their periodic update and indexing processes like some over eager virgin fumbling in the pants of the first girl that would let him. They could configure these services to sip CPU and run for hours or days instead of trying to finish them as quickly as possible. I’m here all week, I’m in no hurry. Why are you bothering me with fan noise?

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                            • ?
                              A Former User @Gators1
                              last edited by A Former User

                              @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                              I don’t know where this goes, so will dump it here. Reddit wants to get paid for AI developers to scrape their platform to train their models. They commercialized their API, which was free to everyone before. Now users are pissed off because the Reddit apps suck ass, making the platform unusable for some (especially sub moderators). Some are even claiming ownership of the content as they create the conversations that Reddit is trying to sell. Many are threatening to jump to another platform, though I don’t know what that will be. Seems like Reddit could have tailored their API license to target AI companies specifically, leaving it open for others like app developers and individuals/students to play with.

                              Interesting thread below about one of the 3rd party apps called Apollo that is shutting down. Personally, I think all this bleating (from users) about what the Apollo guy says would be $2.50 a month per user is overblown. A lot of the most upvoted protest comments and threads on Reddit for weeks now seem to be from economic illiterates or communists who think they’ve got some inalienable right for Reddit to serve them shit for free and without advertising. The apollo app alone was serving 7 billion requests per month; someone has to pay for the Reddit servers to handle that.

                              Anyway, I got diverted: the most interesting to me part of the below thread was that after he met with Reddit, the Reddit CEO publicly claimed he tried to blackmail them for 10 million dollars. But apparently Canada has “one-party consent recording” and the Apollo guy recorded the calls revealing their lies.

                              boom

                              https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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                              • TazzT
                                Tazz
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                                Wow what a wangled web we weave. Sounds like Apollo had a really good run.

                                GTFO

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by A Former User

                                  The Apollo dude open sourced his backend code:

                                  The goal of making the code for this repo available is to show that despite statements otherwise by Reddit administrators, Apollo does not scrape anything and users purely authenticated Reddit API requests, and does a great deal of work to ensure the Reddit API rate limits are respected.

                                  And the Reddit administrators he is referring to is “u/spez” - the CEO. That guy is/was pretty well liked but in in addition to making a business decision to trash the Apollo guys business (ok, fair enough - it’s Reddit’s call) he:

                                  • Slanders the Apollo guy by accusing him of blackmailing reddit for 10 million dollars
                                  • Implies the Apollo guy / team are shitty programmers who don’t know how to or don’t care to use the API properly.

                                  This is right at the time the Apollo team would normally have to be looking for work since the same Reddit CEO trashed their source of income at < 30 days notice. It’s a cunt’s act really.

                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144l6se/comment/jng4f0k/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User
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                                    I’m picking up and playing with a Rust game engine library called Bevy. I read it used something called an “Entity Component System” and thought, blah, blah another case of new buzzwords wrapped around some concept that’s probably been around since the 1950’s and proceeded. Then I coded the most basic demo project per their “getting started” guide and thought, what the fuck is this? It was only 30 lines of code and I was completely lost.

                                    It turns out it really is a different way of doing things which is something I don’t come across all that often. After asking Bard to explain it to me I understand it better and can see it might be a good way to do things.

                                    The history is kinda cool/interesting too:

                                    In 2007, the team working on Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising experimented with ECS designs, including those inspired by Bilas/Dungeon Siege, and Adam Martin later wrote a detailed account of ECS design,[2] including definitions of core terminology and concepts.[3] In particular, Martin’s work popularized the ideas of systems as a first-class element, entities as identifiers, components as raw data, and code stored in systems, not in components or entities.

                                    Entity component system - Wikipedia

                                    Entity component system - Wikipedia
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                                    • Gators1G
                                      Gators1
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                                      Star Citizen has ECS and it’s MULTITHREADED! Best game eva! Buy moar ships!

                                      Entity Component System architecture multithreadable or just the loading process? - Star Citizen Spectrum

                                      Entity Component System architecture multithreadable or just the loading process? - Star Citizen Spectrum

                                      It was not very clear to me from the OCS JumpPoint article if the ECS implementation was capable of multithreading individual systems or just the loading process of components via Fibers? I would...

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                                      • rote7R
                                        rote7
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                                        Pfft Empty Component System, I write three of those every day. From scratch.

                                        fffg

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                                        • ?
                                          A Former User @Gators1
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                                          @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                          Star Citizen has ECS and it’s MULTITHREADED! Best game eva! Buy moar ships!

                                          Entity Component System architecture multithreadable or just the loading process? - Star Citizen Spectrum

                                          Entity Component System architecture multithreadable or just the loading process? - Star Citizen Spectrum

                                          It was not very clear to me from the OCS JumpPoint article if the ECS implementation was capable of multithreading individual systems or just the loading process of components via Fibers? I would...

                                          Oh cool. I couldn’t tell from the wiki article whether it was still being used in any real games or it had been found wanting and devs had moved on.

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                                          • Gators1G
                                            Gators1
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                                            BTW, I played your last game and it sucked! I gave it one star on Steam. I would find a different career if I were you.

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