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    • Gators1G
      Gators1 @Whoofe
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      @Whoofe said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

      like, how does that even happen though?

      If upgrade==‘Success’
      Format C:

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      • TazzT
        Tazz
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        When Windows 95 first came out programmers could hide the Format C: command in a program or icon and it would execute it without any confirmation. There was an emergency patch that came out by the end of the week and Microsoft made all publications promise to keep it quiet for several months. Some Greek TV show demonstrated it months later.

        GTFO

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        • ?
          A Former User
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          When will you reveal more details?

          Well, my best coders tell me it’s a trillion lines of code so it’s going to take a few years.

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          • tiggerT
            tigger @A Former User
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            @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

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            When will you reveal more details?

            Well, my best coders tell me it’s a trillion lines of code so it’s going to take a few years.

            Basically he has no idea and no plan. When someone tells him something that seems to make sense, he includes it into his plans.

            I guess that isn’t that bad if he would keep his mouth shut until all people are done explaining the world he just put himself in to him.

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            • TazzT
              Tazz
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              GTFO

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              • ?
                A Former User
                last edited by A Former User

                What kind of ghetto bullshit is this?

                Microsoft Excel SUBTOTAL function

                Syntax

                SUBTOTAL(function_num,ref1,[ref2],…)

                The SUBTOTAL function syntax has the following arguments:
                Function_num Required. The number 1-11 or 101-111 that specifies the function to use for the subtotal. 1-11 includes manually-hidden rows, while 101-111 excludes them; filtered-out cells are always excluded.

                To use this function, you’ve got to look up a chart of codes called “Function numbers” (e.g. 101 for “AVERAGE”, 102 for “COUNT” etc) and enter the number into the formula.

                Hey Microsoft, the 1980’s are calling and they want their User Experience back.

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                • Gators1G
                  Gators1 @A Former User
                  last edited by

                  @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                  What kind of ghetto bullshit is this?

                  Microsoft Excel SUBTOTAL function

                  Syntax

                  SUBTOTAL(function_num,ref1,[ref2],…)

                  The SUBTOTAL function syntax has the following arguments:
                  Function_num Required. The number 1-11 or 101-111 that specifies the function to use for the subtotal. 1-11 includes manually-hidden rows, while 101-111 excludes them; filtered-out cells are always excluded.

                  To use this function, you’ve got to look up a chart of codes called “Function numbers” (e.g. 101 for “AVERAGE”, 102 for “COUNT” etc) and enter it into the formula.

                  Hey Microsoft, the 1980’s are calling and they want their User Experience back.

                  Lots of the functions in excel are from the 1980 as that they left as is for compatibility. If they changed it every update then it would break millions of spreadsheets and users who aren’t that technical would be lost.

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                  • ?
                    A Former User @Gators1
                    last edited by A Former User

                    @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                    @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                    What kind of ghetto bullshit is this?

                    Microsoft Excel SUBTOTAL function

                    Syntax

                    SUBTOTAL(function_num,ref1,[ref2],…)

                    The SUBTOTAL function syntax has the following arguments:
                    Function_num Required. The number 1-11 or 101-111 that specifies the function to use for the subtotal. 1-11 includes manually-hidden rows, while 101-111 excludes them; filtered-out cells are always excluded.

                    To use this function, you’ve got to look up a chart of codes called “Function numbers” (e.g. 101 for “AVERAGE”, 102 for “COUNT” etc) and enter it into the formula.

                    Hey Microsoft, the 1980’s are calling and they want their User Experience back.

                    Lots of the functions in excel are from the 1980 as that they left as is for compatibility. If they changed it every update then it would break millions of spreadsheets and users who aren’t that technical would be lost.

                    Yeah I dunno about that reasoning. They fucked everyone in the ass in the 90’s with massive changes. You used to be able to do anything and everything Excel could do in a couple of keystrokes via menu shortcuts. A billion macros had to be rewritten when they gave us the god awful ribbon (although they did phase the menu shortcuts out slowly.)

                    But in any case, it really is an odd animal that does remind me a lot of reaching for manuals to work out how to do a simple task before we had even had GUIs. I don’t how something like it would work in Excel but in a program you’d create constants, like AVERAGE = 101, and you’d just start typing the name and let it suggest it rather than have to remember some obscure number.

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                    • GustafG
                      Gustaf @A Former User
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                      "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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                      • Gators1G
                        Gators1 @A Former User
                        last edited by

                        @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                        @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                        @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                        What kind of ghetto bullshit is this?

                        Microsoft Excel SUBTOTAL function

                        Syntax

                        SUBTOTAL(function_num,ref1,[ref2],…)

                        The SUBTOTAL function syntax has the following arguments:
                        Function_num Required. The number 1-11 or 101-111 that specifies the function to use for the subtotal. 1-11 includes manually-hidden rows, while 101-111 excludes them; filtered-out cells are always excluded.

                        To use this function, you’ve got to look up a chart of codes called “Function numbers” (e.g. 101 for “AVERAGE”, 102 for “COUNT” etc) and enter it into the formula.

                        Hey Microsoft, the 1980’s are calling and they want their User Experience back.

                        Lots of the functions in excel are from the 1980 as that they left as is for compatibility. If they changed it every update then it would break millions of spreadsheets and users who aren’t that technical would be lost.

                        Yeah I dunno about that reasoning. They fucked everyone in the ass in the 90’s with massive changes. You used to be able to do anything and everything Excel could do in a couple of keystrokes via menu shortcuts. A billion macros had to be rewritten when they gave us the god awful ribbon (although they did phase the menu shortcuts out slowly.)

                        But in any case, it really is an odd animal that does remind me a lot of reaching for manuals to work out how to do a simple task before we had even had GUIs. I don’t how something like it would work in Excel but in a program you’d create constants, like AVERAGE = 101, and you’d just start typing the name and let it suggest it rather than have to remember some obscure number.

                        The functions exist in the user sheets though. If the numbers go away then the sheets break or they have to write some conversion tool in order to do upgrades and that might not always work. Think about if you got a new release of Python and they changed a bunch of shit in the built in functions. All your code wouldn’t work and you would have to go through each script to update it. Now think about some dumb as ccountant that doesn’t really understand functions and inherited the workbooks that don’t work anymore. Compatibility across releases has always been significant for Excel.

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                        • TazzT
                          Tazz
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                          GTFO

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                          • Gators1G
                            Gators1
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                            I hate Python libraries!

                            That is all

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                            • TazzT
                              Tazz
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                              GTFO

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                              • GustafG
                                Gustaf @Tazz
                                last edited by Gustaf

                                @Tazz said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

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                                What a dumb nerd!

                                Also he’s not an engineer.

                                "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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                                • TazzT
                                  Tazz
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                                  GTFO

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                                  • Gators1G
                                    Gators1
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                                    Has it deleted your C drive yet? No? Still better than human coders.

                                    Dec 4, 2022

                                    Stack Overflow bans ChatGPT as 'substantially harmful'

                                    Stack Overflow bans ChatGPT as 'substantially harmful'

                                    High error rates mean thousands of AI answers need checking by humans

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User
                                      last edited by A Former User

                                      Like there aren’t maybe dozens or more stack overflow users who will just script around it and use ChatGPT in the backend to farm karma or whatever it is that StackOverflow awards. How will they police it? Add a report link with the option saying, “I can’t be sure but I don’t think this user is human”?

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                                      • Gators1G
                                        Gators1 @A Former User
                                        last edited by

                                        @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                        Like there aren’t maybe dozens or more stack overflow users who will just script around it and use ChatGPT in the backend to farm karma or whatever it is that StackOverflow awards. How will they police it? Add a report link with the option saying, “I can’t be sure but I don’t think this user is human”?

                                        I have never been sure the people on SO are human.

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                                        • Gators1G
                                          Gators1
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                                          Chat GPT is garbage. I have had it create a few simple conversion functions for me, but occasionally it just gets really stupid. In this case it can’t even convert freedom to commie measures and did it backwards. At least it apologizes I guess, which seems to be a lost art these days.

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                                          • GustafG
                                            Gustaf
                                            last edited by

                                            You need to get out more.

                                            "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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