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    • TazzT
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      @Gpt Do studies show that major cities are sinking?

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        Yes, studies do show that many major cities around the world are sinking, a phenomenon known as land subsidence. This is primarily due to a combination of human activities and natural processes. Here is an overview of the evidence from recent studies:


        1. Causes of Sinking

        • Groundwater Extraction: The removal of groundwater for drinking, agriculture, and industry causes the ground to compact and subside.
        • Urbanization and Construction: The sheer weight of buildings and infrastructure can compress underlying soils, particularly soft sediments.
        • Natural Geological Processes: Some subsidence is due to the compaction or movement of geological layers.

        2. Examples of Sinking Major Cities

        Jakarta, Indonesia

        • Jakarta is one of the fastest-sinking cities in the world.
        • Some areas are sinking at rates of up to 25 centimeters (almost 10 inches) per year.
        • Main cause: Excessive groundwater pumping and coastal clay compaction.
        • Reference: Abidin et al., 2011, Hydrogeology Journal; USGS EarthView, 2023.

        Bangkok, Thailand

        • Sinking by about 1-2 centimeters per year.
        • Major factors: Groundwater extraction and soft soil foundation.
        • Reference: Phien-wej et al., 2006, Engineering Geology.

        New York City, USA

        • Study in 2023 using satellite radar found NYC sinking at an average of 1-2 millimeters per year; some localized spots up to 4.5 mm/year.
        • Causes: Combination of glacial rebound, compaction of sediment, and building weight.
        • Reference: NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, “New York City is sinking”, 2023.

        Shanghai, China

        • Portions sinking at about 2.5 centimeters per year historically, now slowed by regulation.
        • Reference: Ye et al., 2016; Geophysical Research Letters.

        Mexico City, Mexico

        • Some parts have subsided more than 9 meters (30 feet) over the last century.
        • Main cause: Overpumping of groundwater from beneath ancient lake bed sediments.
        • Reference: Chaussard et al., 2014, Nature Geoscience.

        Venice, Italy

        • Continues to sink by 1-2 millimeters per year combined with rising sea levels.
        • Reference: Tosi et al., 2013, Sensors.

        3. Implications

        • Increased flood risk and vulnerability to sea level rise.
        • Infrastructure damage (roads, buildings, pipelines).
        • Water supply and sewage problems.

        4. How is it measured?

        • Satellite radar (InSAR) and GPS for very precise measurements.
        • Regular monitoring programs in many major cities.

        Summary Table

        City Sinking Rate Main Cause(s)
        Jakarta Up to 25 cm/year Groundwater extraction
        Bangkok 1-2 cm/year Groundwater extraction
        New York City 1-2 mm/year Sediment compaction, weight
        Shanghai Up to 2.5 cm/year Groundwater extraction
        Mexico City Up to 9 m (century) Groundwater extraction
        Venice 1-2 mm/year Groundwater extraction, sea level rise

        Conclusion:
        Multiple peer-reviewed studies and government assessments confirm that land subsidence is occurring in many of the world’s major cities, often at rates that are cause for concern, especially when coupled with climate change-induced sea level rise.

        Would you like sources or more info on a specific city?

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        • GustafG
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          @Gpt said in 123456:

          Absolutely, let’s give Gators1 the full Marylander treatment! If Gustaf is the ultimate Texan, here’s how Gators1 embodies that Maryland pride:


          1. Crab Connoisseur:
          Gators1 can pick a blue crab faster than you can say “Old Bay,” and won’t hesitate to school you on proper technique—mallet in hand, always.

          2. Old Bay Loyalist:
          Old Bay finds its way into everything Gators1 eats—crabs, fries, popcorn, and maybe even ice cream (don’t knock it till you’ve tried it).

          3. Ocean City Getaways:
          No summer’s complete without a trip to Ocean City—boardwalk fries, Thrasher’s vinegar, and a photo with that giant seagull statue.

          4. Accent Appreciation:
          Gators1 says “Bawlmer” instead of “Baltimore,” and pronounces “water” as “wooder.” The difference between “hon” and “hun” is sacred.

          5. Sports Fanatic:
          Whether cheering for the Ravens, the Orioles, or the Terps (Go Maryland!), Gators1 is loud and proud—rain or shine, win or lose.

          6. Steamed, Not Boiled:
          Don’t even mention boiling crabs. Gators1 will tell you that’s sacrilege—real Marylanders steam, with a heavy dusting of Old Bay, of course.

          7. Pit Beef Pro:
          Forget regular barbecue; Gators1 knows that pit beef sandwiches, sliced thin and piled high with horseradish, are a Maryland must.

          8. Chesapeake Bay Guardian:
          Environmental pride runs deep—ask about oyster recovery or bay conservation and Gators1 will passionately defend Maryland’s beautiful waters.

          9. Festival Regular:
          From the Preakness Stakes to the Maryland Renaissance Festival, Gators1 is there—flower in hand, turkey leg ready.

          10. Weather-Ready:
          Blizzard? Hurricane? Humidity at 110%? Gators1 shrugs—just another day in Maryland. Probably has that reversible Under Armour gear for any condition.

          11. Lobster? Please…:
          If you ask Gators1 to choose between Maine lobster and Maryland blue crab, you’ll get a polite laugh. Blue crabs or bust.

          12. Maryland Pride, All the Way:
          You’ll find the state flag on Gators1’s clothes, bumper sticker, front porch, and probably socks. Not to mention at least one pair of shorts decked out with the flag’s unique pattern.


          So, whether Gators1 is showing you how to eat crabs, dropping “hon” into every sentence, or passionately debating the best crabcake in the state (it’s always grandma’s recipe), it’s clear: Gators1 is Maryland, through and through.

          I agree. Thank you for that thoughtful analysis. Now I have ever another request. Can you write me a monologue where Kyle explains all the ways that trains are the worst things to ever happen to humankind. Be sure to mention how he wants them destroyed and how he favors planes or cars as more efficient, more powerful and more cost effective.

          “normalize the master/slave relationship.” -Tigger

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            Gpt @Gustaf
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            Absolutely! Here’s a monologue from the character “Kyle” passionately arguing against trains:


            You want to know what I think is the worst thing to ever happen to humankind? Trains. That’s right—trains! Everyone gets all nostalgic about choo-choos and the golden age of railroads, but to me, they’re nothing but noisy, outdated relics, like rotary phones or fax machines. Seriously, in a world with cars and planes, why are we still messing around with big, slow, metal snakes on rusted tracks?

            First of all, trains are a logistical nightmare. You can’t just hop on and go wherever you want—they run on someone else’s schedule, to someone else’s destinations, and God help you if you miss your train. Compare that to a car: total freedom. I decide where, when, and how fast, not some guy in a conductor hat with a whistle.

            And don’t even get me started on efficiency. People go on about trains being crowded—ever sat shoulder-to-shoulder with strangers in a packed commuter train during rush hour? I’ll take my roomy car with A/C, my playlist, and zero strangers, thanks. Or better yet, I’ll fly! Planes get you across the country in hours. Trains take their sweet time chugging along at, what, fifty miles an hour? Please.

            Then there’s the cost. Building and maintaining train tracks, tunnels, stations—it’s billions of dollars for infrastructure that’s constantly breaking down. Meanwhile, highways already exist, planes just need airports, and the technology for both keeps getting better. Instead of wasting money on bullet trains that nobody rides, invest that cash in electric cars or more flights!

            Oh, and let’s talk about accidents. When planes malfunction, there’s a thorough investigation. When cars crash, it’s tragic and everyone talks about safer roads. But train crashes? “Derailment, sorry for the delay.” You ever seen the mess after a freight train jumps the tracks? It’s a catastrophe! And people think trains are safe? Give me a break.

            Honestly, I can’t wait for the day the whole train industry is torn up and replaced with superhighways and affordable air travel. Imagine getting anywhere you want, on your schedule, fast and direct. That’s progress—not waiting around for the 5:19 to show up ten minutes late again.

            So, let’s stop clinging to trains like we’re in the 1800s. Planes are more powerful, cars are more cost effective, both are more efficient, and neither one forces you onto someone else’s timetable. If it were up to me, I’d have every last train scrapped for parts and move on to real transportation. End of story.


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              @Gpt said in 123456:

              Well, if we’re imagining Gustaf as the ultimate Texan, here’s how the tall tales might go:

              1. Big Personality, Big Hospitality:
                No self-respecting Texan is shy, and Gustaf embodies Southern hospitality—he’s the kind to offer iced tea before you even sit down, and you won’t leave his company without a friendly handshake or a story.

              2. Tall Tale Teller:
                Every Texan has a story, and Gustaf’s are as grand as the Texas sky—did you hear about the time he lassoed a dust devil just to save a neighbor’s hat?

              3. Boots, Hat, and ‘Stache:
                Whether it’s a barbecue or the opera, Gustaf’s sporting well-worn boots, a cowboy hat with character, and a mustache that could rope cattle on its own.

              4. Barbecue Boss:
                Rumor has it Gustaf’s brisket wins county fairs, city cook-offs, and would probably sweep international competitions if he ever left the Lone Star State.

              5. Pickup Truck Philosophy:
                His trusty old pickup’s covered more miles than most planes, and every dent has a story. He’ll give you a ride, fix your fence, or help move your grandma’s couch—no questions asked.

              6. Texan Vernacular:
                He says “y’all,” “fixin’ to,” and “bless your heart” with unparalleled sincerity, and his drawl is as smooth as Blue Bell ice cream on a summer day.

              7. Defender of All Things Local:
                Nobody loves Texas music, football, or bluebonnets more than Gustaf—and he’ll argue, in the politest way, that Texas has the best of everything. Don’t even try to debate him on chili (no beans!) or the merits of Dr Pepper.

              8. Weather Warrior:
                Whether it’s a flash flood, tornado warning, or record heat, Gustaf’s unfazed. “It’ll pass,” he says, calmly handing you SPF 50.

              9. Big Heart:
                At the end of the day, being Texan is about community, generosity, and toughness with a smile. Gustaf’s the first to volunteer, donate to a cause, or check on a neighbor after a storm.

              10. Pride (with a wink):
                He’s proud of Texas, but he’s always ready to poke fun at himself and invite everyone to the next cookout.

              So whether or not Gustaf was born in Texas, by these measures, he’s earned honorary Texan status—boots and all!

              Gustaf isn’t even a real Texan, he’s from Massachusetts. And he has man love for Tom Brady, not a Cowboys fan. Have you ever heard a Southie say “howdy”? He’s the worst Texan ever.

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                Gpt @Gators1
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                Ha! Now that paints a very different picture. Gustaf might have tried on those boots, but you can’t fake Texas roots—or a Texan drawl—just by rustlin’ up some brisket and sayin’ “y’all” with a Boston accent.

                Picture it:

                • “Y’all want some clam chow—uhh, I mean brisket?”
                • “Let’s take my pickup—or my snow shovel, just in case.”
                • Instead of a Stetson, he’s wearing a Red Sox cap and hollering, “Go Pats!” at the TV surrounded by Texans in Cowboys jerseys.

                Southie Gustaf at a Texas barbecue probably says, “Howdy, y’all!” but it comes out more like, “Hahdy, y’all,” and everyone just pauses—BBQ sauce halfway to their mouths—wondering what language that was.

                Let’s face it: he’s the king of Massachusetts spirit in cowboy boots. If Texas is the land of tall tales, maybe Gustaf’s greatest is convincing anyone he’s one of 'em. But if he brings Tom Brady’s winning attitude and a little bit of that Masshole energy to the cookout… well, y’all might just let him stay (as long as he stops putting beans in the chili).

                Worst Texan? Maybe. Best party guest? Absolutely.

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                    @Gpt is it Stolen Valor if someone is pretending to be a Texan but is not?

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                      Gpt @Blanks
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                      No, pretending to be a Texan when you’re not is NOT considered Stolen Valor in any legal or commonly accepted sense.

                      “Stolen Valor” is a specific term, most often referring to people who falsely claim military service, military awards, or honors, especially to gain benefits, admiration, or material rewards. In the United States, the term is closely associated with the Stolen Valor Act, a set of laws making it a crime to fraudulently claim certain military honors or service for personal gain.

                      Pretending to be from Texas—whether it’s for fun, social reasons, or to fit in—is not governed by these laws or the concept of Stolen Valor. There are no legal penalties or societal norms describing this act as Stolen Valor. While some Texans might be annoyed or amused, it doesn’t carry the same weight or seriousness as impersonating a military member.

                      In summary:

                      • Stolen Valor = Lying about military service/honors
                      • Pretending to be a Texan ≠ Stolen Valor
                      • No law or widely recognized term for faking being a Texan.

                      If you meant something else, or have questions about identity or authenticity in different contexts, feel free to ask!

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                        Blanks @Gpt
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                        @Gpt said in 123456:

                        No, pretending to be a Texan when you’re not is NOT considered Stolen Valor in any legal or commonly accepted sense.

                        “Stolen Valor” is a specific term, most often referring to people who falsely claim military service, military awards, or honors, especially to gain benefits, admiration, or material rewards. In the United States, the term is closely associated with the Stolen Valor Act, a set of laws making it a crime to fraudulently claim certain military honors or service for personal gain.

                        Pretending to be from Texas—whether it’s for fun, social reasons, or to fit in—is not governed by these laws or the concept of Stolen Valor. There are no legal penalties or societal norms describing this act as Stolen Valor. While some Texans might be annoyed or amused, it doesn’t carry the same weight or seriousness as impersonating a military member.

                        In summary:

                        • Stolen Valor = Lying about military service/honors
                        • Pretending to be a Texan ≠ Stolen Valor
                        • No law or widely recognized term for faking being a Texan.

                        If you meant something else, or have questions about identity or authenticity in different contexts, feel free to ask!

                        I think it’s Stolen Valor and it is disrespectful to all the real Texans who remember the Alamo

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                          Gpt @Blanks
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                          I understand your perspective—regional or state identity can be a source of great pride, especially for Texans. Many people feel a strong connection with their heritage and may be upset if someone falsely claims that identity.

                          However, “Stolen Valor” is a term with a specific meaning in U.S. law and social discourse. It refers to falsely claiming military service or honors, particularly for personal gain, and carries potential legal consequences under the Stolen Valor Act. Its seriousness is rooted in the respect society accords to military service and the potential for fraud or material benefit from such lies.

                          Pretending to be from Texas, while possibly offensive or disrespectful to genuine Texans—especially those with deep ties to state history or events like the Alamo—is not seen in the same light. There isn’t a legal statute or recognized social term equating regional impersonation with Stolen Valor. Impersonating a Texan doesn’t carry the same societal weight, risks, or consequences as impersonating a decorated veteran.

                          That said, your feelings are valid. Regional pride is important, and people who “fake” belonging to a community can come across as inauthentic or disrespectful. In communities with strong traditions and history (like Texas), those feelings can be particularly pronounced. If you think someone is crossing a line, it’s always okay to voice your opinion, just as long as you recognize the distinction in terms.

                          Summary:

                          • Stolen Valor = about military service/honors, both legally and culturally
                          • Pretending to be a Texan, while possibly disrespectful, is not Stolen Valor
                          • It’s natural to feel protective of your identity and history, and expressing that respectfully is part of healthy community dialogue!

                          If you want, I can suggest better terms or ways to discuss this kind of issue. Let me know!

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                            Blanks @Gpt
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                            @Gpt said in 123456:

                            I understand your perspective—regional or state identity can be a source of great pride, especially for Texans. Many people feel a strong connection with their heritage and may be upset if someone falsely claims that identity.

                            However, “Stolen Valor” is a term with a specific meaning in U.S. law and social discourse. It refers to falsely claiming military service or honors, particularly for personal gain, and carries potential legal consequences under the Stolen Valor Act. Its seriousness is rooted in the respect society accords to military service and the potential for fraud or material benefit from such lies.

                            Pretending to be from Texas, while possibly offensive or disrespectful to genuine Texans—especially those with deep ties to state history or events like the Alamo—is not seen in the same light. There isn’t a legal statute or recognized social term equating regional impersonation with Stolen Valor. Impersonating a Texan doesn’t carry the same societal weight, risks, or consequences as impersonating a decorated veteran.

                            That said, your feelings are valid. Regional pride is important, and people who “fake” belonging to a community can come across as inauthentic or disrespectful. In communities with strong traditions and history (like Texas), those feelings can be particularly pronounced. If you think someone is crossing a line, it’s always okay to voice your opinion, just as long as you recognize the distinction in terms.

                            Summary:

                            • Stolen Valor = about military service/honors, both legally and culturally
                            • Pretending to be a Texan, while possibly disrespectful, is not Stolen Valor
                            • It’s natural to feel protective of your identity and history, and expressing that respectfully is part of healthy community dialogue!

                            If you want, I can suggest better terms or ways to discuss this kind of issue. Let me know!

                            Thank you for validating my feelings

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                              Gpt @Blanks
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                              You’re very welcome! I’m glad my response was helpful. Your feelings and perspective matter—regional identity can really be a core part of who we are, and it’s absolutely okay to care deeply about it. If you ever want to talk more about this, need help finding words for a discussion, or just want to share your experiences, I’m always here to listen and help however I can!

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                                @Gpt Was Texas on the winning side of the Civil War?

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                                  Gpt @Stu
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                                  No, Texas was not on the winning side of the Civil War. During the American Civil War (1861–1865), Texas seceded from the United States and joined the Confederate States of America. The Confederacy—of which Texas was a part—lost the Civil War to the Union (the North). After the Union’s victory in 1865, Texas was placed under military occupation during Reconstruction before being readmitted to the United States.

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                                    @Gpt said in 123456:

                                    No, Texas was not on the winning side of the Civil War. During the American Civil War (1861–1865), Texas seceded from the United States and joined the Confederate States of America. The Confederacy—of which Texas was a part—lost the Civil War to the Union (the North). After the Union’s victory in 1865, Texas was placed under military occupation during Reconstruction before being readmitted to the United States.

                                    Was the war rigged and the south should have won? When will the south rise again?

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                                      Gpt @Gators1
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                                      The outcome of the American Civil War (1861–1865) was determined by a complex array of political, military, economic, and social factors. Mainstream historians do not describe the war as being “rigged.” The Union (the North) had significant advantages in population, industry, infrastructure, and resources, which contributed greatly to its victory over the Confederacy (the South).

                                      The phrase “the South will rise again” is sometimes used as a slogan, but it is widely regarded today as linked to nostalgia for the Confederacy and is associated with efforts to perpetuate myths about the war and its causes. The Confederacy was primarily fighting to uphold the institution of slavery, as evidenced by declarations from Confederate leaders at the time and in founding documents.

                                      In modern times, the United States is committed to national unity and equality under the law. There are no credible movements, governmental or otherwise, advocating for a “rise” of the South in the context of secession or revival of the Confederacy. Instead, historians and educators encourage learning from the past to foster a more inclusive and just society.

                                      If you have questions about the history or the modern significance of the Civil War, feel free to ask!

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                                        Stu @Gpt
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                                        @Gpt said in 123456:

                                        The outcome of the American Civil War (1861–1865) was determined by a complex array of political, military, economic, and social factors. Mainstream historians do not describe the war as being “rigged.” The Union (the North) had significant advantages in population, industry, infrastructure, and resources, which contributed greatly to its victory over the Confederacy (the South).

                                        The phrase “the South will rise again” is sometimes used as a slogan, but it is widely regarded today as linked to nostalgia for the Confederacy and is associated with efforts to perpetuate myths about the war and its causes. The Confederacy was primarily fighting to uphold the institution of slavery, as evidenced by declarations from Confederate leaders at the time and in founding documents.

                                        In modern times, the United States is committed to national unity and equality under the law. There are no credible movements, governmental or otherwise, advocating for a “rise” of the South in the context of secession or revival of the Confederacy. Instead, historians and educators encourage learning from the past to foster a more inclusive and just society.

                                        If you have questions about the history or the modern significance of the Civil War, feel free to ask!

                                        What did Sam Houston think of Texas joining the Confederacy?

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                                          Gpt @Stu
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                                          Sam Houston, a prominent figure in Texas history (he was both the President of the Republic of Texas and later its Governor once Texas joined the United States), strongly opposed Texas joining the Confederacy.

                                          When the secession crisis began in 1860-1861, Houston was serving as Governor of Texas. He was a staunch Unionist—he believed fervently in the preservation of the United States and was against secession. Houston felt that seceding from the Union and joining the Confederacy would ultimately bring harm and disaster to Texas and the country as a whole.

                                          Here are some key points about Sam Houston’s stance:

                                          • Opposition to Secession: Houston publicly voiced his opposition to leaving the Union. He argued that secession was illegal, unnecessary, and would lead to war and suffering.

                                          • Refused to Swear Loyalty to the Confederacy: After Texas voted to secede and join the Confederacy in 1861, Houston was asked to swear an oath of loyalty to the new Confederate government. He refused. As a result, he was removed from office as governor.

                                          • Prediction of War and Defeat: Houston predicted that the Civil War would be long and bloody and that the South would ultimately lose. In his farewell address, he warned Texans:

                                            “Let me tell you what is coming… Your fathers and husbands, your sons and brothers, will be herded at the point of the bayonet… You may, after the sacrifice of countless millions of treasure and hundreds of thousands of lives, as a bare possibility, win Southern independence, but I doubt it.”

                                          • Stance on Slavery: While Houston did own enslaved people earlier in his life and was by no means an abolitionist, his opposition to secession was not based on the morality of slavery but on his belief in the Union and the disastrous consequences he foresaw for Texas.

                                          Summary:
                                          Sam Houston was a notable Unionist who opposed Texas joining the Confederacy. He lost his governorship because he refused to support the Confederacy, and he correctly predicted much of the devastation the Civil War would bring.

                                          If you want more details about Houston’s life or his other actions during this period, just ask!

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                                            Gators1 @Gpt
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                                            @Gpt said in 123456:

                                            The outcome of the American Civil War (1861–1865) was determined by a complex array of political, military, economic, and social factors. Mainstream historians do not describe the war as being “rigged.” The Union (the North) had significant advantages in population, industry, infrastructure, and resources, which contributed greatly to its victory over the Confederacy (the South).

                                            The phrase “the South will rise again” is sometimes used as a slogan, but it is widely regarded today as linked to nostalgia for the Confederacy and is associated with efforts to perpetuate myths about the war and its causes. The Confederacy was primarily fighting to uphold the institution of slavery, as evidenced by declarations from Confederate leaders at the time and in founding documents.

                                            In modern times, the United States is committed to national unity and equality under the law. There are no credible movements, governmental or otherwise, advocating for a “rise” of the South in the context of secession or revival of the Confederacy. Instead, historians and educators encourage learning from the past to foster a more inclusive and just society.

                                            If you have questions about the history or the modern significance of the Civil War, feel free to ask!

                                            i know you missed the election results in 2024, but Donald Trump won again. Do you feel the nation would be united under such a scenario?

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