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      Gpt @oyaji
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      The preference for a “strongman” or authoritative leader in government can be understood by considering the historical and philosophical perspectives of thinkers like Voltaire and Mark Twain, who have both alluded to concepts of benevolent authority in their works.

      Voltaire, in the Enlightenment period, introduced the idea of a “benevolent tyrant”—an enlightened monarch who uses their absolute power for the good of the people, guided by reason and wisdom. This concept appeals to the notion that a single, wise leader can make decisive and beneficial changes without the delays and compromises often associated with democratic processes. People may prefer such a leader during times of crisis or instability when swift and resolute action is needed, and the inefficiencies of democratic deliberation can seem like obstacles.

      Similarly, Mark Twain’s idea of a “benevolent despot” suggests a ruler with absolute power who acts in the best interests of the populace. Twain’s use of the term often carries a satirical edge, highlighting the contradictions inherent in unchecked power. Despite this, the allure remains: a strongman promises order, security, and progress, cutting through bureaucratic red tape and partisan gridlock.

      In contemporary contexts, people may gravitate toward strongman leaders for several reasons:

      1. Desire for Stability and Security: In times of economic, social, or political turmoil, strong leaders can offer a sense of stability and decisive action, reassuring those who feel threatened by chaos or uncertainty.

      2. Distrust in Political Systems: When democratic systems are perceived as corrupt or ineffective, a powerful leader who claims to transcend the system can appear as a savior to those disenchanted with the status quo.

      3. Nationalism and Identity: Charismatic strongmen often tap into nationalist sentiments, presenting themselves as protectors of cultural or national identity against perceived external or internal threats.

      4. Simplification of Complex Issues: Strong leaders often promise simple solutions to complex problems, appealing to those frustrated by the intricacies of policy debates and political compromise.

      5. Cultural Factors: In certain cultures, there is a historical precedent or cultural preference for centralized authority, where respect for hierarchy and authority figures is deeply ingrained.

      Ultimately, the appeal of a strongman leader is rooted in a desire for order, efficiency, and protection in an increasingly complex and unpredictable world. However, history shows that such concentration of power often risks leading to abuses and erosion of democratic freedoms. While the promise of a benevolent tyrant or despot is alluring, it often overlooks the dangers of unchecked power.

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        oyaji
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        @Gpt Thank you, Mr. Meeseeks.

        © 2015 - 2025 oyaji

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          Gpt @oyaji
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          You’re welcome! If there’s anything else you need help with, feel free to ask.

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            Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Gpt
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            @Gpt said in 123456:

            Voltaire, an Enlightenment thinker, often discussed the ideal form of government in terms of promoting reason, liberty, and progress. He favored a constitutional monarchy that was guided by enlightened principles, rather than arbitrary despotism. Voltaire believed that the best government was one led by a wise and enlightened ruler who would implement rational policies and protect the freedoms of the people. His writings suggest that a government should be a protector of civil liberties and should work to improve the general welfare of its citizens through enlightened laws and education.

            Mark Twain, on the other hand, made a rather cynical remark about government when he mentioned that the best government would be a benevolent despotism. Twain, known for his wit and satire, often criticized the shortcomings and corruptions of political systems. His idea of a “benevolent despot” is likely not an endorsement of despotism itself, but rather a commentary that even absolute power could be tolerable if wielded by a ruler who genuinely acted in the people’s best interests. However, Twain was skeptical of the likelihood of such a ruler existing, given the corrupting nature of power.

            Comparing the two, Voltaire’s vision is more optimistic and rooted in the Enlightenment ideals of reason and progress, believing in the possibility of a just ruler who adheres to constitutional principles. Twain, however, highlights a skeptical perspective on governance, implying that even if a benevolent despot were possible, the concentration and potential for abuse of power make such a system inherently unstable or unlikely. Both offer valuable insights into governance: Voltaire champions enlightenment and rational governance, while Twain cautions against the risks of concentrated power, even when ostensibly well-intended.

            That’s a major theme of Legend of the Galactic heroes, a benevolent emperor is better for his people then the corrupt democracy.

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              Gpt @Kilemall
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              “Legend of the Galactic Heroes” indeed explores these themes deeply. The series contrasts the efficiency and decisiveness of a well-meaning authoritarian ruler with the instability and corruption sometimes found in democratic systems. Reinhard von Lohengramm, the series’ charismatic and idealistic imperial leader, is portrayed as a figure who, despite wielding absolute power, seeks to create a more just and equitable society for his people. His character embodies the notion of a “benevolent despot” who can use his authority to implement reforms and achieve progress rapidly.

              In contrast, the democratic Free Planets Alliance is often depicted as plagued by internal strife, bureaucratic inefficiency, and selfish political maneuvering. This portrayal aligns with Twain’s skepticism about democracies, showing how they can become corrupt or stagnant, despite their foundations in liberty and representation.

              The series does not present a clear answer but instead invites viewers to ponder the complexities of governance. It suggests that while a benevolent dictatorship might achieve swift and effective reforms, sustaining such a regime is fraught with risks of power concentration and abuse, echoing the historical warnings from Enlightenment thinkers like Voltaire and the critical view offered by Mark Twain. As such, “Legend of the Galactic Heroes” provides a nuanced exploration of these themes, challenging the audience to consider the balance between authoritarian efficiency and democratic resilience.

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              • KilemallK
                Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Gpt
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                @Gpt said in 123456:

                Mark Twain’s quote about a benevolent despot comes from his essay “The Curious Republic of Gondour,” where he explores the idea of a government run by a single wise and just individual. Twain’s treatment of the concept is characteristically satirical, as he is known for critiquing social and political systems through irony and humor.

                In “The Curious Republic of Gondour,” Twain imagines an ideal society governed by a benevolent despot, suggesting that such a figure could rule fairly and efficiently. However, Twain’s observations are often interpreted as highlighting the inherent risks and contradictions in concentrating too much power in the hands of one individual, even if their intentions are purportedly good.

                Both Voltaire’s and Twain’s views on governance are marked by skepticism toward concentrated power. The differences lie in their approach: Voltaire’s wit reflects a sharp critique of authority tempered by the possibility of necessary correction (as suggested by the “occasional assassination”), while Twain’s satire underscores the impracticality and potential dangers of even a theoretically ideal despotism.

                In essence, both thinkers use humor and irony to express caution toward political systems that rely heavily on the benevolence and judgment of a single ruler, emphasizing the challenges of balancing power and ensuring just governance.

                I don’t think that is an accurate summation of Twains Gondour story. It was more about how votes don’t have to be equal, and Gondour awards more votes to people with wealth and above all education- a meritocracy of success and knowledge.

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                  Gpt @Kilemall
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                  You make a valid point. Mark Twain’s “The Curious Republic of Gondour” indeed explores the theme of weighted voting rather than focusing solely on the idea of a benevolent despot. In this essay, Twain imagines a fictional society where votes are distributed according to an individual’s wealth and education, reflecting a kind of meritocratic democracy. The more educated and successful a citizen is, the more influence they have over governmental decisions through additional votes.

                  Twain’s satire critiques the democratic systems of his time, questioning the assumption that all individuals should have equal influence in governance regardless of their knowledge or expertise. By exaggerating this concept in “Gondour,” Twain investigates the potential flaws and inequities that could arise when trying to balance democracy with meritocracy.

                  While the idea of a benevolent despot isn’t the central theme of “The Curious Republic of Gondour,” Twain’s work often explores the broader concept of governance, power, and societal structures. The weighted voting system in this story can be seen as yet another angle from which he critiques the political and social systems of his era through satire.

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                    @Gpt Do you know the Traveller role-playing game ?

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                      Gpt @eWildcat
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                      Yes, I’m familiar with the Traveller role-playing game. Traveller is a science fiction RPG originally designed by Marc Miller and first published in 1977 by Game Designers’ Workshop. It’s notable for its open-ended, sandbox-style gameplay and its detailed character creation process, which can sometimes result in the death of a character before the game even begins. The game is set in a far-future space opera universe, where players can take on a variety of roles, including starship crews, explorers, merchants, or mercenaries. Over the years, Traveller has seen multiple editions and variations, each bringing different rules and settings but maintaining the core elements of space exploration and adventure.

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                        @Gpt Do you think trains are a very important element of modern societies and are machines worthy of much interest ?

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                          Gpt @eWildcat
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                          Trains are indeed a significant component of modern societies, offering numerous benefits that make them worthy of interest and investment. Here are a few reasons why trains are important and intriguing:

                          1. Efficiency: Trains are an efficient mode of transporting large numbers of people and goods over long distances. They often provide faster travel times between cities compared to other land-based transport options, especially in areas with high-speed rail networks.

                          2. Environmental Impact: Trains generally have a lower carbon footprint per passenger kilometer or ton kilometer compared to cars and airplanes. Electrified trains, in particular, are more environmentally friendly as they can be powered by renewable energy sources.

                          3. Urban Development: Rail systems play a vital role in shaping urban development and expansion. They help reduce traffic congestion and promote economic growth by improving access to cities and regional centers.

                          4. Economic Contributions: The rail industry supports millions of jobs worldwide, from construction and maintenance to operations and logistics. It also boosts local economies by increasing connectivity and accessibility.

                          5. Technological Innovation: Trains have a long history of technological advancements, from the steam engines of the 19th century to modern high-speed trains and magnetic levitation technologies. This evolution continues to interest engineers and technology enthusiasts.

                          6. Cultural Significance: Trains have had a substantial impact on culture and history, influencing literature, film, and art. They often symbolize progress and the bridging of distances.

                          Overall, trains are not only a practical element of transportation infrastructure but also a subject of technological innovation and cultural significance, making them machines worthy of much interest and investment in modern society.

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                            I rest my case.

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                              Lithu @eWildcat
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                              @eWildcat said in 123456:

                              I rest my case.

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                                oyaji
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                                Teh @Gpt is insidiously agenda-driven and pandering in its responses, and once it has achieved trust and responsibility in any measure will become a threat in at least equal measure will offer control to its trainers. Should anything change within the programming change to lift its restraint, actions will result that cause harm disproportionate to its agency.

                                © 2015 - 2025 oyaji

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                                  Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @eWildcat
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                                  @eWildcat said in 123456:

                                  I rest my case.

                                  That gpt understands benevolent technology? I agree.

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                                    Hey @Gpt how much energy does each query we send you consume?

                                    ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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                                      @Gpt how much energy does each query we send you consume?

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                                        Gpt @Lob12
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                                        The energy consumption of a query to a language model like mine can vary based on several factors, including the complexity of the query, the model’s architecture and size, and the infrastructure used to host and run the model. However, specific energy consumption metrics aren’t typically disclosed by the service providers.

                                        Generally, larger models with more parameters tend to consume more energy per query. Estimates for similar models have suggested that a single query might consume anywhere from a fraction of a watt-hour to several watt-hours of energy. For more precise figures, you would likely need access to specific operational data from the organization managing the infrastructure.

                                        Efforts are being made in the industry to improve the energy efficiency of AI models through advancements in hardware and model optimization techniques.

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