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      oyaji @tigger
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      @tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

      @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

      @tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2zk4l8g26o

      Trump will chicken out and exempt Chinese workers out of this, but it still looks pretty awesome for Europe.

      How do you make olde posts like that when you live in the future?

      I’m just following corporate panic as my news source. And the administration just chickened out. Took a full 24h.

      Got your attention though, didn’t he?

      © 2015 - 2025 oyaji

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        Hog
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        Sep 22  /  Generative AI

        AI-Generated “Workslop” Is Destroying Productivity

        AI-Generated “Workslop” Is Destroying Productivity

        Despite a surge in generative AI use across workplaces, most companies are seeing little measurable ROI. One possible reason is because AI tools are being used to produce “workslop”—content that appears polished but lacks real substance, offloading cognitive labor onto coworkers. Research from...

        Kinda interesting. I use AI all the time and, in the right context, it’s an incredible productivity boost. But the article divides users into two camps and it’s one camp that seems to be producing most of the slop.

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        • GustafG
          Gustaf
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          Interesting. I also produce workslop that appears polished but lacks real substance. Especially here.

          "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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            Jam @Hog
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            @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

            Sep 22  /  Generative AI

            AI-Generated “Workslop” Is Destroying Productivity

            AI-Generated “Workslop” Is Destroying Productivity

            Despite a surge in generative AI use across workplaces, most companies are seeing little measurable ROI. One possible reason is because AI tools are being used to produce “workslop”—content that appears polished but lacks real substance, offloading cognitive labor onto coworkers. Research from...

            Kinda interesting. I use AI all the time and, in the right context, it’s an incredible productivity boost. But the article divides users into two camps and it’s one camp that seems to be producing most of the slop.

            One or two in here use AI to make their posts seem intelligent and well researched, “full of fact,” I dare say, but as it is your first 24 hours back, I won’t mention any names.

            "laissez les bons temps rouler!"

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              Blanks
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              Using AI to pull up sources is way more efficient than a google search and it’s way easier to use it to verify information across all sources and/or search thru published studies.

              Very different use-case than producing slop content.

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                Hog @A Former User
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                @A-Former-User said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                For all of our modern tech wonders, there’s one thing I’m finding to be a PITA nearly every day recently and that is using my bluetooth headset with multiple devices (i.e., my phone, laptop, TV, Switch). I’ll go sit in the lounge and want to watch something on the TV or play some Switch without disturbing anyone else and invariably I’ll find that my headset won’t connect because it’s still connected to a different device. Then I have to schlep my lazy ass into the office like a 15th century peasant to disable the connection on my laptop and go back to the lounge and try again. It happens at least daily.

                I don’t know how you’d fix it but I’m kind of shocked it’s this much of a PITA. I can’t imagine Apple users being able to cope with something so complicated so I’m wondering how Apple devices handle it?

                Funnily enough I found the solution to the above only last week. Once again frustrated by it, I couldn’t believe that there wasn’t a solution for it despite Gemini telling me at the time I posted the above that I’d just have to train myself to disable bluetooth or unpair the headphones when I was finished using it on each device.

                Like some sort of tech autist, on a hunch I tried holding down the power on button for several seconds after the headphones told me “power on” and, sure enough I was rewarded with a follow up “pairing” message which meant that the headphones had been unpaired from any connected device and I could then go ahead and pair them to my phone or laptop without going hunting for the other device.

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                  Gators1
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                  Gemini hasn’t replaced you yet?

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                  • GustafG
                    Gustaf
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                    It has in my book.

                    "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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                    • HogH
                      Hog @Gators1
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                      @Gators1 Nah, not yet.

                      I built an app in Dart/Flutter while I was away and Gemini Flash generated about 95% of the code for it. I’d never written any Dart before and, although I’d been guiding the AI on architecture and pulling it up on stuff that was obviously wrong or even dangerous, I was literally 200 commits in before I thought I better learn something about the Dart language. I remember being a few minutes into the first Dart beginner video thinking, “oh, so that’s how you declare a variable in Dart”. Which was pretty funny.

                      Admittedly I’m a tight ass so I don’t know what the $200 or $800 a month coding models are like but although an amazing tool, AI generated code has a lot of minefields. I’m of the opinion now that I’d hate to have to code this stuff all manually because AI is such a productivity boost but I’d also never trust it to not give you an unmaintainable mess if you just one-shotted it or let the AI do it all without monitoring it and guiding it.

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                      • Gators1G
                        Gators1 @Hog
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                        @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                        @Gators1 Nah, not yet.

                        I built an app in Dart/Flutter while I was away and Gemini Flash generated about 95% of the code for it. I’d never written any Dart before and, although I’d been guiding the AI on architecture and pulling it up on stuff that was obviously wrong or even dangerous, I was literally 200 commits in before I thought I better learn something about the Dart language. I remember being a few minutes into the first Dart beginner video thinking, “oh, so that’s how you declare a variable in Dart”. Which was pretty funny.

                        Admittedly I’m a tight ass so I don’t know what the $200 or $800 a month coding models are like but although an amazing tool, AI generated code has a lot of minefields. I’m of the opinion now that I’d hate to have to code this stuff all manually because AI is such a productivity boost but I’d also never trust it to not give you an unmaintainable mess if you just one-shotted it or let the AI do it all without monitoring it and guiding it.

                        Agree. Tried to get GitHub copilot to code a more or less simple web app with its advanced agents. Completely fucked the thing up to the point where I trashed it. I tried iterating with GPT to come up with an approach to it and it had some pretty cool ideas.

                        Web part is easy but it has to render maps from like 100M records a month so looking for as much optimization as I can get and has some non-trivial distributed computing to build on AWS. It had an interesting approach to use spatial sorting and predicate pushdown to minimize the data pulls and also told me how to build a cache layer that I wasn’t even considering. Seems like the pattern, I go from fuck you to that’s amazing and back.

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                          Gustaf
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                          I had ChatGPT make me a rental analysis calculator. Before I could even tell it what I wanted it to do it wrote all the code in Python. It’s 98% perfect.

                          "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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                            Gators1 @Gustaf
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                            @Gustaf said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                            I had ChatGPT make me a rental analysis calculator. Before I could even tell it what I wanted it to do it wrote all the code in Python. It’s 98% perfect.

                            I thought it had guard rails? Great now we have AI slumlords.

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                              Hog @Gators1
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                              @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                              Seems like the pattern, I go from fuck you to that’s amazing and back.

                              Yeah that captures my own experience really well.

                              Another thing I noticed while developing this Flutter app was burn out. Although it could generate what would take me a day to code in a few seconds, it meant that the pace of you having to think about architecture or design decisions was way, way quicker and I’d burn out quicker. I didn’t realize that previously a lot of that rote programming where you are just in the zone and doing stuff for hours that the AI could easily do was kind of meditative. While you weren’t consciously thinking about it, it was often during those zen coding sessions that I’d come to realize things about what I was building and then be ready to act on it when I’d finished the chore part.

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                                Gators1
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                                I wish I had time for that. I am juggling too much shit and it’s hard for me to focus on coding for more than an hour without some idiot pinging me to do their thinking for them or my dumbass employees wanting me to check their work. Wish I had never become a manager but didn’t have much choice.

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                                • HogH
                                  Hog @Gustaf
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                                  @Gustaf said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                  I had ChatGPT make me a rental analysis calculator. Before I could even tell it what I wanted it to do it wrote all the code in Python. It’s 98% perfect.

                                  My experience with it reminds me of that nursery rhyme, “When she was good, she was very, very good, But when she was bad, she was horrid.”

                                  It can be amazing with what it can do it when when it works though.

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                                  • KilemallK
                                    Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Hog
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                                    @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                    @Gators1 Nah, not yet.

                                    I built an app in Dart/Flutter while I was away and Gemini Flash generated about 95% of the code for it. I’d never written any Dart before and, although I’d been guiding the AI on architecture and pulling it up on stuff that was obviously wrong or even dangerous, I was literally 200 commits in before I thought I better learn something about the Dart language. I remember being a few minutes into the first Dart beginner video thinking, “oh, so that’s how you declare a variable in Dart”. Which was pretty funny.

                                    Admittedly I’m a tight ass so I don’t know what the $200 or $800 a month coding models are like but although an amazing tool, AI generated code has a lot of minefields. I’m of the opinion now that I’d hate to have to code this stuff all manually because AI is such a productivity boost but I’d also never trust it to not give you an unmaintainable mess if you just one-shotted it or let the AI do it all without monitoring it and guiding it.

                                    Fortunately we American kids were schooled on the risks of ai jerks.

                                    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-episode-where-george-jetson-rages-against-the-machine-146315456/

                                    https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

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                                    • HogH
                                      Hog @Kilemall
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                                      @Kilemall Got a bonus new (to me) word out of that article, “teledactyl”.

                                      https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/teledactyl

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                                        oyaji @Hog
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                                        @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                        @Kilemall Got a bonus new (to me) word out of that article, “teledactyl”.

                                        https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/teledactyl

                                        You might enjoy this one too, if you don’t already know it:

                                        polydactyl

                                        ernest hemingway’s polydactyl cats

                                        © 2015 - 2025 oyaji

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                                          Hog
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                                          The financial services firms allegedly each paid $25 million and $36.2 million in Bitcoin in 2023—the highest payments listed in the complaint.

                                          Amanda Gerut  /  Sep 19

                                          London teenager orchestrated 'help desk' extortion scheme against 47 U.S. companies that netted $115 million says DOJ | Fortune

                                          London teenager orchestrated 'help desk' extortion scheme against 47 U.S. companies that netted $115 million says DOJ | Fortune

                                          A 19-year old is facing a maximum 95 years in prison for allegedly calling company help desks and convincing employees to reset passwords in a massive scheme.

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                                            Hog
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                                            Palantir: Because There Are Some Lines Google Won't Cross
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