The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
Undoubtedly a big problem but banning it outright seems pretty heavy handed. It can’t all be negative and what defines “social media”. Personally for my own kid, I think I’d rather introduce him to it in a controlled way and monitor it when he’s a quite a few years younger than that when it wouldn’t feel so much like a gross intrusion on his privacy. Just setting them loose when they are 16 with no previous experience and no ability to control it seems like a backward step.
It’s kind of funny though, because at least in the US minors have no agency and can’t sign a contract, so they can’t legally agree to the dozens of TOS’ they do.
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At least they won’t also be able to bang an Attorney General.
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@Jam said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I don’t think social media kills as often as other “vices”
Read Jonathan Haidt’s books on the subject. You’d be surprised how bad social media is. The effect its having on our youth is significantly worse than alcohol or drugs ever were. Here is a brief article https://www.persuasion.community/p/haidt-the-teen-mental-illness-epidemic
Social media makes people think they’re trans, that the world is flat, etc.
Now, you could fix this in other ways but acting like it isn’t all that bad isn’t one of them. Banning it probably is the wrong route too. Trump’s plan to end section 230 and force social media companies to allow you to opt out of their algorithms if accomplished are good first steps. However, the human brain is wired to deal with drama on the scale of the entire planet. The human brain is still wired for tribal life still not planet sized bullshit 24/7.
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I have no problem considering that all the brain-rotting content on the internet is probably more damageable for kids than drugs and alcohol. I don’t think Jam realizes how heavily bombarded the kids are and from such a young age.
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@madrebel said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Jam said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I don’t think social media kills as often as other “vices”
Read Jonathan Haidt’s books on the subject. You’d be surprised how bad social media is. The effect its having on our youth is significantly worse than alcohol or drugs ever were. Here is a brief article https://www.persuasion.community/p/haidt-the-teen-mental-illness-epidemic
Social media makes people think they’re trans, that the world is flat, etc.
Now, you could fix this in other ways but acting like it isn’t all that bad isn’t one of them. Banning it probably is the wrong route too. Trump’s plan to end section 230 and force social media companies to allow you to opt out of their algorithms if accomplished are good first steps. However, the human brain is wired to deal with drama on the scale of the entire planet. The human brain is still wired for tribal life still not planet sized bullshit 24/7.
This x 1000
But fixing it seems impossible. We’re the car that’s edged itself into a car parking cul-de-sac that it now can’t reverse itself out of. I can refuse my kids having true SM until they’re 16, maybe. But after that? It’s there, waiting to pounce, and they’ll voluntarily grab it for its attractions and benefits.
We are fucked. We screwed it all up.
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@Lob12 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I have no problem considering that all the brain-rotting content on the internet is probably more damageable for kids than drugs and alcohol. I don’t think Jam realizes how heavily bombarded the kids are and from such a young age.
I do.
Our 16 year old granddaughter has used Tiktok since about the age of 9 and Snapchat probably since she was about 12. She is much more sensible than her 28 year-old first cousin who used to pose “selfies” half a dozen times a day on Facebook.
Granddaughter taught me some TikTok routines which got a lot of likes, though she had to speed them up for me so it looked like I was not as lame as I was in reality at normal speed.
The 28 year-old seems to have more issues than the 16 year-old.
I don’t envy parents today. I do not know how I would handle this social media phenomenon and at my age, I have no such challenges remaining. But I suppose I would do what many do and that is use a transactional and reactive approach to it pending a “Dr. Spock” type character showing me the way. ;-)
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@Jam said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Lob12 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I have no problem considering that all the brain-rotting content on the internet is probably more damageable for kids than drugs and alcohol. I don’t think Jam realizes how heavily bombarded the kids are and from such a young age.
I do.
Our 16 year old granddaughter has used Tiktok since about the age of 9 and Snapchat probably since she was about 12. She is much more sensible than her 28 year-old first cousin who used to pose “selfies” half a dozen times a day on Facebook.
Granddaughter taught me some TikTok routines which got a lot of likes, thous she had to speed them up for me so lit looked like I was not as lame as I was in reality and normal speed.
The 28 year-old seems to have more issues than the 16 year-old.
I don’t envy parents today. I do not know how I would handle this social media phenomenon and at my age, I have no such challenges remaining. But I suppose I would do what many do and that is use a transactional and reactive approach to it pending a “Dr. Spock” type character showing me the way. ;-)
I’m dreading the next few years. Teenage daughters are the most at risk group where the drawbacks of social media are concerned
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She is probably more at risk having grown up with a father that acted like a fascist mod to her all her life.
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
She is probably more at risk having grown up with a father that acted like a fascist mod to her all her life.
Lithu’s her father?? What??
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@silky said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
She is probably more at risk having grown up with a father that acted like a fascist mod to her all her life.
Lithu’s her father?? What??
Which means Goof is her actual father. Dude gets around.
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@silky said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
She is probably more at risk having grown up with a father that acted like a fascist mod to her all her life.
Lithu’s her father?? What??
Which means Goof is her actual father. Dude gets around.
Makes sense. She’s much cooler than me
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
She is probably more at risk having grown up with a father that acted like a fascist mod to her all her life.
Can you ban your children?
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Un-enshittification? I wouldn’t have believed it was possible.
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If only we could do that in LOT.
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@Gustaf said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
If only we could do that in LOT.
We have a workforce?
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@Jam said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Gustaf said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
If only we could do that in LOT.
We have a workforce?
Content generation slaves to win awards, create buzz and interest in lithucoins.
The inability to use lithucoins to buy ad links might be a snag.
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Or anything else
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All this talk about smart cellphones being dangerous for kids makes me wonder why y’all seem to think the risk and exposure are anavoidable.
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unavoidable.
