The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread
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Maybe all that RAM is being used by your anti-Cambodian spy services! Sounds like another meeting from the authorities is in order!
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
that them running the BI tool on the same hardware as the ERP is a mistake.
you think? two extremely memory hungry applications that also pound the same disk subsytem with random IO on the physical box is an extremely bad idea.
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I think it’s .5 TB unless metric TBs are smaller or something?
Machine has 5 terabytes of RAM which the dude almost maxed out by consuming 10% of it (or nearly all of the free memory) for his report.
Sounds like a poorly coded application on the machine if it uses 4.5TB of memory just to run it and leaves the poor user only 500GB for doing actual work with the tool. I would get rid of my offshore contracted programmers if I were them.
The machine is used by 10K people for hundreds of different processes but, yeah, something’s fucked if one guy came in over the top and consumed 500gb just by running a single report.
I don’t know what the issue is but I’ve been forming the opinion that them running the BI tool on the same hardware as the ERP is a mistake. But I don’t know; it’s all above my paygrade and I don’t have enough info to even make informed speculation. I only even hear about it when it’s close to hitting the fan like today.
Maybe a cache option is on and shouldn’t be? Typically the db should be streaming the answer, nor storing it… Installing BI on the ERP server is even beyond my company stupid.
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I’ve been doing this shit professionally for 3 decades and I shake my head at how we can almost max out RAM on a system with FIVE TERABYTES of the stuff because some dude wanted to see what an option in a report did.

Hardware explosion makes for sloppy children.
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@madrebel said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
that them running the BI tool on the same hardware as the ERP is a mistake.
you think? two extremely memory hungry applications that also pound the same disk subsytem with random IO on the physical box is an extremely bad idea.
Adding on network bottleneck and overhead is better?
For our bigass apps, we’ll often have the main app where the updates occur and then a shadow reporting database mirrored to the main one just for splitting resources. And then in the most crucial case a nightly download to a third reporting database…
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@Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I’ve been doing this shit professionally for 3 decades and I shake my head at how we can almost max out RAM on a system with FIVE TERABYTES of the stuff because some dude wanted to see what an option in a report did.

Hardware explosion makes for sloppy children.
Exploding hardware does look cool though.
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@Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@madrebel said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
that them running the BI tool on the same hardware as the ERP is a mistake.
you think? two extremely memory hungry applications that also pound the same disk subsytem with random IO on the physical box is an extremely bad idea.
Adding on network bottleneck and overhead is better?
For our bigass apps, we’ll often have the main app where the updates occur and then a shadow reporting database mirrored to the main one just for splitting resources. And then in the most crucial case a nightly download to a third reporting database…
Same, we have a replication layer for reporting/extraction and then extract data from that into a lake for BI.
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@madrebel said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
that them running the BI tool on the same hardware as the ERP is a mistake.
you think? two extremely memory hungry applications that also pound the same disk subsytem with random IO on the physical box is an extremely bad idea.
Adding on network bottleneck and overhead is better?
For our bigass apps, we’ll often have the main app where the updates occur and then a shadow reporting database mirrored to the main one just for splitting resources. And then in the most crucial case a nightly download to a third reporting database…
Same, we have a replication layer for reporting/extraction and then extract data from that into a lake for BI.
BI, the most common data kingdom out there.
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@Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
Adding on network bottleneck and overhead is better?
network bottleneck? oh you must be poor and can’t afford 100GbE.
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@madrebel said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
Adding on network bottleneck and overhead is better?
network bottleneck? oh you must be poor and can’t afford 100GbE.
Overhead on feeding it in and handling while not particularly reducing memory/IO, just keeping the query hog itself off.
And I already told you the solution so piss off with your alpha shit.
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someone’s mad about being poor …
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I sure am.
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I’m not happy about not being rich and retired.
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I’m not happy about not being rich and retired.
i’ve been retired since 1999. unfortunately i kinda blew the other part.
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Hog already posted about the Logitech mouse subscription before, but Verge did an interview with their CEO (a Swiss lady that started 7 months ago and has a long history with beauty products at P&G). Out of touch does not even begin to describe it. She obviously doesn’t understand her product quality either because I would be thrilled if some of the Logitech shit I bought lasted more than a year. I do like their mice though. Also nobody is going to think about a plastic mouse as the equivalent of a Rolex.
Faber: I’m very intrigued. The other day, in Ireland, in our innovation center there, one of our team members showed me a forever mouse with the comparison to a watch. This is a nice watch, not a super expensive watch, but I’m not planning to throw that watch away ever. So why would I be throwing my mouse or my keyboard away if it’s a fantastic-quality, well-designed, software-enabled mouse. The forever mouse is one of the things that we’d like to get to.
Patel: What made the mouse a forever mouse?
Faber: It was a little heavier, it had great software and services that you’d constantly update, and it was beautiful. So I don’t think we’re necessarily super far away from that.
Patel: Let’s come to that in a second because that makes sense to me. You sell managed services to enterprises. You price support contracts for cameras and whatever. That’s an ongoing need businesses have. I’m still stuck on, “You’re going to sell me a mouse once and it’s going to have ongoing software updates forever.”
Faber: Imagine it’s like your Rolex. You’re going to really love that.
Patel: But Rolex has to employ software engineers to ship me over-the-air updates forever.
Faber: But the artifact is like your Rolex, and then given that we know the technology that we attach to changes, it’s not going to be like your Rolex in that it doesn’t have to ever change. Our stuff will have to change, but does the hardware have to change? I’m not so sure. We’ll have to obviously fix it and figure out what that business model is. We’re not at the forever mouse today, but I’m intrigued by the thought.
Patel: I’m going to ask this very directly. Can you envision a subscription mouse?
Faber: Possibly.
Patel: And that would be the forever mouse?
Faber: Yeah.
Patel: So you pay a subscription for software updates to your mouse.
Faber: Yeah, and you never have to worry about it again, which is not unlike our video conferencing services today.
Pate: But it’s a mouse.
Faber: But it’s a mouse, yeah.
Patel: I think consumers might perceive those to be very different.
Faber: [Laughs] Yes, but it’s gorgeous. Think about it like a diamond-encrusted mouse.
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What a twat
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this helps explain why there are few women CEOs.
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It works really well as soon as she finds a reason for people to wear their mouse on their body to show others how rich they are.
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@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
It works really well as soon as she finds a reason for people to wear their mouse on their body to show others how rich they are.
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@Stu said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
It works really well as soon as she finds a reason for people to wear their mouse on their body to show others how rich they are.
Awesome. I’m buying Logitech stock and selling it in 1000 years!!
