The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread
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@madrebel said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@oyaji said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
i expect they all got too accustomed to carte blanche spying on their populace to allow secure quantum communication.
this and it really wouldn’t be awesome if Iran, China, Best Korea, etc had the ability to instantly brute force AES-256 encryption. Or the Houthis.
The spying, yeah that sucks but actual terror organizations having the ability to idk open the flood gates at all the dams on the eastern seaboard … decidedly worse.
I doubt terror orgs will have the ability to do that in the short term, but state actors likely will. And they can hang the threat of cyber attack over our head like they did nuclear missiles in the 20th century. Pretty sure the government, or what’s left of it, is analyzing the scenarios though now and moving toward a plan to recover in case such an attack happens.
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I doubt terror orgs will have the ability to do that in the short term, but state actors likely will.
Who’s funding the Houthis? Again, when you can break into existing X86_64 systems via brute force, instantly, you can’t reliably be tracked or stopped.
Iran could do a thing and pin it on anyone. Iran could make it look like the Democrats or Republicans were literally attempting a coup triggering a civil conflict. Y’all lack imagination as to what could be done if/when existing encryption is no longer an impediment. Now throw in AI and Deep Fakes. What if one of our boomer subs received an authenticated message from the President, they picked up a phone and called to speak to ‘the President’ to verify and it all checked out?
The possibilities are endless.
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Amusing…
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Concerning
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Stroking
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@madrebel said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
… the ability to instantly brute force AES-256 encryption.
I’m confused by this. It can’t be this elaborate troll?
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Exhilarating
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Calculate time taken to break AES key
A 256 bit AES key is required to be broken using the brute force method on a 2GHz computer. How long would it take to break the key in the best case and in the worst case situations? Assume that 1000
To put it another way: The Sun will die out in a paltry 5* 109 years. In that time, the ratio of the progress you’ve made to the total amount of work you have to do is within a couple orders of magnitude of the ratio of the mass of one hydrogen atom to the mass of the supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy. However, Wikipedia lists the heat death of the universe as occurring at earliest in 10*100 (10 to the hundredth power) years, so you will crack it by then.
Illuminating?
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I guess that even using a quantum computer it would take a few thousand years to break aes 256 key. Or a few seconds if you make a right guess.
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Unnerving
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@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I’m confused by this.
NIST Announces First Four Quantum-Resistant Cryptographic Algorithms
Federal agency reveals the first group of winners from its six-year competition
existing crypto algorithms may be vulnerable in a world where general purpose quantum computers exist. Jam’s link above is applicable to X86_64 CPUs. It is functionally impossible to brute force current algorithms which allows us to establish federated trust relationships knowing that who we want to have access can have access and we keep out everyone else. If this trust breaks down … its a very bad day.
Quantum computers don’t work on the same principles and have the ability to do some types of calculations significantly faster than we can today. Work has been underway for over a decade (that link highlights a 6 year contest) to attempt to make these algorithms resistant, and let’s hope they’ve done that. Problem is nobody really knows what quantum computers may be able to do since they’re still essentially lab only type machines.
for example, did any of you imagine the world you’re in now the first time you fired up quake 2 on your lets see back then celeron 300 or intel 333? think about all the advancements in languages, advancements in raw horsepower, GPUs, or the fact that your phone is significantly stronger than the computer you played quake 2 on.
we’re working to make the algorithms ‘resistant’ to what we think the first few generations of functional (outside of a lab) Quantum computers may be able to do. we have no idea how quickly quantum computing may advance though as now we have generative AI. What if you’re running GenAI on a Quantum stack? Can you iterate through the design process and go from a 1.0 product to 10.0 in a year or two? Nobody knows. If that were to happen though, the amount of power that would represent is pretty scary in the wrong hands … or even the right hands.
Imagine having the ability to take all the Lithu coins in existence and make it appear to the block chain to be valid requests.
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@Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I guess that even using a quantum computer it would take a few thousand years to break aes 256 key.
you’re basing this assumption off what exactly? CPUs/GPUs today aren’t quantum computers. They’re significantly slower in the types of math cryptography requires, which is why crypto works.
Qbits aren’t bound by the same constraints.
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@madrebel said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I’m confused by this.
Federal agency reveals the first group of winners from its six-year competition
existing crypto algorithms may be vulnerable in a world where general purpose quantum computers exist. Jam’s link above is applicable to X86_64 CPUs. It is functionally impossible to brute force current algorithms which allows us to establish federated trust relationships knowing that who we want to have access can have access and we keep out everyone else. If this trust breaks down … its a very bad day.
Quantum computers don’t work on the same principles and have the ability to do some types of calculations significantly faster than we can today. Work has been underway for over a decade (that link highlights a 6 year contest) to attempt to make these algorithms resistant, and let’s hope they’ve done that. Problem is nobody really knows what quantum computers may be able to do since they’re still essentially lab only type machines.
for example, did any of you imagine the world you’re in now the first time you fired up quake 2 on your lets see back then celeron 300 or intel 333? think about all the advancements in languages, advancements in raw horsepower, GPUs, or the fact that your phone is significantly stronger than the computer you played quake 2 on.
we’re working to make the algorithms ‘resistant’ to what we think the first few generations of functional (outside of a lab) Quantum computers may be able to do. we have no idea how quickly quantum computing may advance though as now we have generative AI. What if you’re running GenAI on a Quantum stack? Can you iterate through the design process and go from a 1.0 product to 10.0 in a year or two? Nobody knows. If that were to happen though, the amount of power that would represent is pretty scary in the wrong hands … or even the right hands.
Imagine having the ability to take all the Lithu coins in existence and make it appear to the block chain to be valid requests.
You hit all the tech buzzwords in that post…quantum, AI, blockchain…even named your preferred cryptocurrency! Congrats!
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i am wondering if it is worthwhile for me to be a’scairt for y’all.
as for me, i am unhackable. well, except for LOT, i guess,
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@madrebel said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I guess that even using a quantum computer it would take a few thousand years to break aes 256 key.
you’re basing this assumption off what exactly? CPUs/GPUs today aren’t quantum computers. They’re significantly slower in the types of math cryptography requires, which is why crypto works.
Qbits aren’t bound by the same constraints.
I’m basing it on an article I read a couple of years ago. I’ll try to find it but it doesn’t matter, I don’t know shit about encryption, so I’m not sure if I should even speculate, really.
♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.
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@Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@madrebel said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I guess that even using a quantum computer it would take a few thousand years to break aes 256 key.
you’re basing this assumption off what exactly? CPUs/GPUs today aren’t quantum computers. They’re significantly slower in the types of math cryptography requires, which is why crypto works.
Qbits aren’t bound by the same constraints.
I’m basing it on an article I read a couple of years ago. I’ll try to find it but it doesn’t matter, I don’t know shit about encryption, so I’m not sure if I should even speculate, really.
How can you not be sure you should speculate? It’s been required here for years!
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