The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread
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But generally, the world of Geo data used to be pretty split, with Google, Tomtom, Here, facebook, microsoft, esri, and so on hanging on to their own data-sets. Now it’s a bipolar world with Google on one side and everyone else on the other. Which is kind of stupid… it makes sense for opening hours and so on, but with neither having a real edge in basemap data it would be better for everyone if the databases just merged.
Having said that, OSM is kind of stupid to work with.
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I was trying to work out why my impressions of Apple maps (via duckduckgo) was so bad if it was based on OSM which I’ve had on installed on my phone before and never had a problem with. I worked it out:
If you search for my city in duckduckgo and click on maps, it takes you to Apple maps zoomed all the way in so one screen inch is 1 meter. Scroll out 20 notches on my mouse wheel and you are still only at one inch to 10 meters. Another 20 mouse wheel notches and you can start to make out a few streets in the city center.
The Apple maps is fine; it’s the ridiculous default zoom that’s the problem. Previously I thought every search I did showed me something like a country road with no cross roads or detail and I thought Apple had no data for barely any place.
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I was trying to work out why my impressions of Apple maps (via duckduckgo) was so bad if it was based on OSM which I’ve had on installed on my phone before and never had a problem with. I worked it out:
If you search for my city in duckduckgo and click on maps, it takes you to Apple maps zoomed all the way in so one screen inch is 1 meter. Scroll out 20 notches on my mouse wheel and you are still only at one inch to 10 meters. Another 20 mouse wheel notches and you can start to make out a few streets in the city center.
The Apple maps is fine; it’s the ridiculous default zoom that’s the problem. Previously I thought every search I did showed me something like a country road with no cross roads or detail and I thought Apple had no data for barely any place.
Could be the default zoom is to support their driving directions function and not intended for self navigation/orientation.
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@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
DuckDuckGo or Bing still used Apple maps the last time I checked. Damn, it’s awful.
Edit: It’s DuckDuckGo. Bing doesn’t say where they get their map data - it says Copyright Microsoft on the map so maybe they’ve started their own. Dunno why they all don’t use open street maps.
As of now everyone except for Google migrated to OSM for basemap data. Microsoft, Apple, etc, merge the OSM data with their own data acquired for high impact locations. Google has everything independent. I would generally use Google for business data (stores, opening hours), and OSM for just about anything else. The best mapping application from my point of view is mapy.cz, which is using OSM data.
Is there an OSM-based product that has the equivalent of Google Street View?
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@Jam said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
DuckDuckGo or Bing still used Apple maps the last time I checked. Damn, it’s awful.
Edit: It’s DuckDuckGo. Bing doesn’t say where they get their map data - it says Copyright Microsoft on the map so maybe they’ve started their own. Dunno why they all don’t use open street maps.
As of now everyone except for Google migrated to OSM for basemap data. Microsoft, Apple, etc, merge the OSM data with their own data acquired for high impact locations. Google has everything independent. I would generally use Google for business data (stores, opening hours), and OSM for just about anything else. The best mapping application from my point of view is mapy.cz, which is using OSM data.
Is there an OSM-based product that has the equivalent of Google Street View?
No. Incidentally that’s why Google has the best data about businesses.
I think other companies may have some streetview data in the US going forward, because they collect it for self-driving cars. But I don’t see the business model in making it publicly available. Some friends sold a company that does that to Lyft IIRC. But as of 3-4 years ago they only really had few places. SF and parts of London maybe?
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I found out recently that there’s no Google street view for any German address.
I got food poisoning from some dodgy German muesli label and I wanted to plan a hit.
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Actually… Germany is getting street view coverage. I guess the privacy issues were resolved. It was kind of funny actually and a big deal here. long time ago Google streetview cars also collected names of WiFi access points (this is used for fast geolocation of phones, just look at WiFi Mac addresses). But how they did it? The way anyone would have. Leave an interface in promiscuous Mode and dump all data while logging GPS signal, then reconstruct. I used to do this back when WiFi was cool, it was called wardriving IIRC.
And then, someone realized that these logs contained everything that was sent without encryption and somehow all hell broke loose. Google is spying on you!!
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The government controls what they want you to see and sometimes blurs things out to let others know that we know what you’re hiding. ei Russian missile sites.
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@Tazz said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
The government controls what they want you to see and sometimes blurs things out to let others know that we know what you’re hiding. ei Russian missile sites.
Tucker said this?
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@Tazz said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I know the credit cards have chips in them but never took a closer look. Sure enough, there’s a little chip imbedded behind the metal contacts.
Wow. Very similar to the chip they implant when you get the COVID vaccine!
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@Lob12 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I was looking at a lot of his stuff (linus) when I was building my new PC and that guy came off as such a big fucking AMD shill lol.
In the end I stuck with nvidia.
My PC is a full AMD build and I have nothing bad to say about it, it’s performance or how it performs compared to Intel/Nvidia builds.
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@Wingmann said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Lob12 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I was looking at a lot of his stuff (linus) when I was building my new PC and that guy came off as such a big fucking AMD shill lol.
In the end I stuck with nvidia.
My PC is a full AMD build and I have nothing bad to say about it, it’s performance or how it performs compared to Intel/Nvidia builds.
They did up their game lately, but the way Linus was unapologetically shilling for them so hard turned me off.
In the end, it was also about me just being more familiar with NVIDA/intel.
I could probably have saved some money with an AMD build.
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Well, familiarity is a plus. I’ve run AMD CPUs for quite long, but always with Nvidia cards.
A couple years ago I decided to do a full AMD build so the ecosystem helped itseld. Motherboard, drivers, data pipes, RAM access, even the monitor Vsync, all that stuff being managed by a single brand makes sense to me, and it works very fine. -
Damn. Look at the directory listing for c:\windows for Windows 1.04.
That’s all there was to it.
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Notepad since 1985…suck it vim!
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Was BASIC part of MS DOS? How about that game with the gorrillas throwing bananas?
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@Tazz said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
Was BASIC part of MS DOS
It would have been. From what I understand, Windows 1 wasn’t much more than a glorified menu system and a shared clipboard.
A search tells me the gorilla game came out in 1990. You can play it here:
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@Hog that’s it. That and mine sweeper. People were fired at work for playing those games. Solitaire and Mahjongg were big ones to.
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
Notepad since 1985…suck it vim!
vi was written in 1976.
And 10 years later it was surpassed by a far superior editor!!!
Ok boomer!!!
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