The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread
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I had an iphone4 and an iPad. I got pissed off when they deleted the Google maps from the iPhone and replaced it with shitty apple maps. I took a road trip to Flagstaff, AZ and there were literally no street maps on there, just the main roads through town. Flagstaff is not a small city. Then they made me buy fucking apps just to play videos in any format other than mp4. Plus I had to load all the files through their shitty iTunes that ran like ass on PC. And the files were locked to the app you associated them with. So I switched to Android and never looked back because I don’t need no Stalin tech.
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Lob12 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Lob12 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog I mean they have to write something or you wouldn’t click.
You talking to the guy who gets excited about “Python in Excel”…
I am excited about python in Excel.
Damn, they got you too uh?
If you had ever tried to write vba scripts you would understand. It’s like coding in the Kyle days.
Pffft, don’t need no clicky Visual Basic!
Real mainframe data wrangling happens with SAS.
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@Stu is it Apple or Microsoft that sucks in that situation? So hard to tell.
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
DuckDuckGo or Bing still used Apple maps the last time I checked. Damn, it’s awful.
Edit: It’s DuckDuckGo. Bing doesn’t say where they get their map data - it says Copyright Microsoft on the map so maybe they’ve started their own. Dunno why they all don’t use open street maps.
I think Microsoft has pretty extensive geographic data. All their location based intelligence relies on accurate mapping and tracking people is good money. Flight sim uses their satellite data to stream realistic terrain.
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Nvidia to Reportedly Triple Output of Compute GPUs in 2024: Up to 2 Million H100s
Triple the output, triple the revenue?
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
DuckDuckGo or Bing still used Apple maps the last time I checked. Damn, it’s awful.
Edit: It’s DuckDuckGo. Bing doesn’t say where they get their map data - it says Copyright Microsoft on the map so maybe they’ve started their own. Dunno why they all don’t use open street maps.
As of now everyone except for Google migrated to OSM for basemap data. Microsoft, Apple, etc, merge the OSM data with their own data acquired for high impact locations. Google has everything independent. I would generally use Google for business data (stores, opening hours), and OSM for just about anything else. The best mapping application from my point of view is mapy.cz, which is using OSM data.
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
What about Apple maps Mr internet expert on everything?
It’s included in the list above, Apple maps uses OSM basemap and merge it with acquired data.
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@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
What about Apple maps Mr internet expert on everything?
It’s included in the list above, Apple maps uses OSM basemap and merge it with acquired data.
Then why does it suck ass compared to the others???
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
What about Apple maps Mr internet expert on everything?
It’s included in the list above, Apple maps uses OSM basemap and merge it with acquired data.
Then why does it suck ass compared to the others???
I have no idea. I have no apple devices and I guess you cannot access it with a browser. I know they fired the leadership, or at least the people we knew in it at some point, maybe 2019-ish.
Compare roads in Africa with something like mapy.cz and you’ll see if it’s the same source.
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But generally, the world of Geo data used to be pretty split, with Google, Tomtom, Here, facebook, microsoft, esri, and so on hanging on to their own data-sets. Now it’s a bipolar world with Google on one side and everyone else on the other. Which is kind of stupid… it makes sense for opening hours and so on, but with neither having a real edge in basemap data it would be better for everyone if the databases just merged.
Having said that, OSM is kind of stupid to work with.
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I was trying to work out why my impressions of Apple maps (via duckduckgo) was so bad if it was based on OSM which I’ve had on installed on my phone before and never had a problem with. I worked it out:
If you search for my city in duckduckgo and click on maps, it takes you to Apple maps zoomed all the way in so one screen inch is 1 meter. Scroll out 20 notches on my mouse wheel and you are still only at one inch to 10 meters. Another 20 mouse wheel notches and you can start to make out a few streets in the city center.
The Apple maps is fine; it’s the ridiculous default zoom that’s the problem. Previously I thought every search I did showed me something like a country road with no cross roads or detail and I thought Apple had no data for barely any place.
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I was trying to work out why my impressions of Apple maps (via duckduckgo) was so bad if it was based on OSM which I’ve had on installed on my phone before and never had a problem with. I worked it out:
If you search for my city in duckduckgo and click on maps, it takes you to Apple maps zoomed all the way in so one screen inch is 1 meter. Scroll out 20 notches on my mouse wheel and you are still only at one inch to 10 meters. Another 20 mouse wheel notches and you can start to make out a few streets in the city center.
The Apple maps is fine; it’s the ridiculous default zoom that’s the problem. Previously I thought every search I did showed me something like a country road with no cross roads or detail and I thought Apple had no data for barely any place.
Could be the default zoom is to support their driving directions function and not intended for self navigation/orientation.
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@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
DuckDuckGo or Bing still used Apple maps the last time I checked. Damn, it’s awful.
Edit: It’s DuckDuckGo. Bing doesn’t say where they get their map data - it says Copyright Microsoft on the map so maybe they’ve started their own. Dunno why they all don’t use open street maps.
As of now everyone except for Google migrated to OSM for basemap data. Microsoft, Apple, etc, merge the OSM data with their own data acquired for high impact locations. Google has everything independent. I would generally use Google for business data (stores, opening hours), and OSM for just about anything else. The best mapping application from my point of view is mapy.cz, which is using OSM data.
Is there an OSM-based product that has the equivalent of Google Street View?
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@Jam said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
DuckDuckGo or Bing still used Apple maps the last time I checked. Damn, it’s awful.
Edit: It’s DuckDuckGo. Bing doesn’t say where they get their map data - it says Copyright Microsoft on the map so maybe they’ve started their own. Dunno why they all don’t use open street maps.
As of now everyone except for Google migrated to OSM for basemap data. Microsoft, Apple, etc, merge the OSM data with their own data acquired for high impact locations. Google has everything independent. I would generally use Google for business data (stores, opening hours), and OSM for just about anything else. The best mapping application from my point of view is mapy.cz, which is using OSM data.
Is there an OSM-based product that has the equivalent of Google Street View?
No. Incidentally that’s why Google has the best data about businesses.
I think other companies may have some streetview data in the US going forward, because they collect it for self-driving cars. But I don’t see the business model in making it publicly available. Some friends sold a company that does that to Lyft IIRC. But as of 3-4 years ago they only really had few places. SF and parts of London maybe?
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I found out recently that there’s no Google street view for any German address.
I got food poisoning from some dodgy German muesli label and I wanted to plan a hit.
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Actually… Germany is getting street view coverage. I guess the privacy issues were resolved. It was kind of funny actually and a big deal here. long time ago Google streetview cars also collected names of WiFi access points (this is used for fast geolocation of phones, just look at WiFi Mac addresses). But how they did it? The way anyone would have. Leave an interface in promiscuous Mode and dump all data while logging GPS signal, then reconstruct. I used to do this back when WiFi was cool, it was called wardriving IIRC.
And then, someone realized that these logs contained everything that was sent without encryption and somehow all hell broke loose. Google is spying on you!!
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The government controls what they want you to see and sometimes blurs things out to let others know that we know what you’re hiding. ei Russian missile sites.
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@Tazz said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
The government controls what they want you to see and sometimes blurs things out to let others know that we know what you’re hiding. ei Russian missile sites.
Tucker said this?
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@Tazz said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I know the credit cards have chips in them but never took a closer look. Sure enough, there’s a little chip imbedded behind the metal contacts.
Wow. Very similar to the chip they implant when you get the COVID vaccine!
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@Lob12 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I was looking at a lot of his stuff (linus) when I was building my new PC and that guy came off as such a big fucking AMD shill lol.
In the end I stuck with nvidia.
My PC is a full AMD build and I have nothing bad to say about it, it’s performance or how it performs compared to Intel/Nvidia builds.
