The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread
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Me beating the AI? Yeah.
I’ll take a baseball bat to the server nodes though.
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Blanks said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I’d rather take the unemployment than work at google anyway. No way any position there could be rewarding.
They pay very well to software developers and it’s a big stepping stone to a successful career later on. And even if that isn’t good enough and you don’t want to work there, just leave. Don’t make some worthless “occupy Google” protest that achieves nothing and possibly fucks up your future career prospects.
I agree, that was never going to actually solve anything, but you can’t collect unemployment if you quit! Or can you? I don’t actually know.
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@Blanks said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Blanks said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I’d rather take the unemployment than work at google anyway. No way any position there could be rewarding.
They pay very well to software developers and it’s a big stepping stone to a successful career later on. And even if that isn’t good enough and you don’t want to work there, just leave. Don’t make some worthless “occupy Google” protest that achieves nothing and possibly fucks up your future career prospects.
I agree, that was never going to actually solve anything, but you can’t collect unemployment if you quit! Or can you? I don’t actually know.
Maybe in California. Mostly no though.
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I don’t believe I’ve ever read a PDF and gone “you know what little PDF…I wish you were capable of conversation, maybe even sentient, then we could spend our nights chatting over a glass of wine”
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@Blanks said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I don’t believe I’ve ever read a PDF and gone “you know what little PDF…I wish you were capable of conversation, maybe even sentient, then we could spend our nights chatting over a glass of wine”
Be careful.
You’ve just triggered Jerraye to depict that which you have described in mere words.
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Edit: I put a spoiler thing in it, as this isn’t my garbage AI dumping pit thread.
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oh no
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

Better asking it the shit you want to know than having to read the stupid pdf yourself.
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

Better asking it the shit you want to know than having to read the stupid pdf yourself.
That implies that you trust the answer.
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@Lob12 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

Better asking it the shit you want to know than having to read the stupid pdf yourself.
That implies that you trust the answer.
Probably better than the answer I would get if I didn’t read the fucking thing.
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“completely legal in 48 US states”
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That will change after I unleash my robot wolf pack on the Columbia protestors.
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
“completely legal in 48 US states”
What could go wrong?!
I’m ordering one right now and can’t wait to take it to the dog park!
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
“completely legal in 48 US states”
I need a pack of them to loose upon the ROUSs… ermm, RsOUS.
I wonder if Bushman will get some and come by for a day or 2. I had found his number and rang him up a few years ago, but then I lost it. These would be right up his alley. Anybody got his contact info?
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@oyaji said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
“completely legal in 48 US states”
I need a pack of them to loose upon the ROUSs… ermm, RsOUS.
I wonder if Bushman will get some and come by for a day or 2. I had found his number and rang him up a few years ago, but then I lost it. These would be right up his alley. Anybody got his contact info?
I don’t think they exist.
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@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@oyaji said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
“completely legal in 48 US states”
I need a pack of them to loose upon the ROUSs… ermm, RsOUS.
I wonder if Bushman will get some and come by for a day or 2. I had found his number and rang him up a few years ago, but then I lost it. These would be right up his alley. Anybody got his contact info?
I don’t think they exist.
Once you’ve got Big Dog, it would not be hard to add flames or anything else. And Big Dogs exist. The only real remaining problems are price and availability.
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This surprised me:
tl;dr they raised their kids with a normal middle class lifestyle for the most part and even made them get part time jobs to pay for things like cell phones.
It gives me more respect for Balmer.
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The report said that Google would establish a new team in Munich, Germany, to serve as more cost-effective labour.
I’m surprised Munich is that much cheaper that its worth shit canning a whole team with years/decades of experience.
Edit: What the team were responsible for apparently:
in addition to contributing to upstream python, we
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maintained a stable version of python within google, and made sure that everything in the monorepo worked with it. in my time on the team we moved from 2.7 to 3.6, then incrementally to 3.11, each update taking months to over a year because the rule at google is if you check any code in, you are responsible for every single breakage it causes
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maintained tools to keep thousands of third party packages constantly updated from their open source versions, with patch queues for the ones that needed google-specific changes
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had highly customised versions of tools like pylint and black, targeted to google’s style guide and overall codebase
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contributed to pybind11, and maintained tools for c++ integration
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developed and maintained build system rules for python, including a large effort to move python rules to pure starlark code rather than having them entangled in the blaze/bazel core engine
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developed and maintained a typechecker (pytype) that would do inference on code without type annotations, and work over very large projects with a one-file-at-a-time architecture (this was my primary job at google, ama)
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performed automated refactorings across hundreds of millions of lines of code
and that was just the dev portion of our jobs. we also acted as a help desk of sorts for python users at google, helping troubleshoot tricky issues, and point newcomers in the right direction. plus we worked with a lot of other teams, including the machine learning and AI teams, the colaboratory and IDE teams, teams like protobuf that integrated with and generated python bindings, teams like google cloud who wanted to offer python runtimes to their customers, teams like youtube who had an unusually large system built in python and needed to do extraordinary things to keep it performant and maintainable.
and we did all this for years with fewer than 10 people, most of whom loved the work and the team so much that we just stayed on it for years. also, despite the understaffing, we had managers who were extremely good about maintaining work/life balance and the “marathon, not sprint” approach to work. as i said in another comment, it’s the best job i’ve ever had, and i’ll miss it deeply.
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I’m surprised Munich is that much cheaper that its worth shit canning a whole team with years/decades of experience.
Not sure what these guys made, but in general I think Europe pays software engineers much less. At least in data engineering there is a huge pay gap between the US and Europe. Also Google pays a premium because they are Google and get the best people and also for the high cost of living if these people were anywhere near the Bay area. For data engineering the “FAANG” companies (Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google), someone with experience working on their core infrastructure can command salaries of $200-300K. For the rest of us they can range from around $80-200K more or less, but those were driven by the high demand in past years and are coming down. In Europe I have seen more like $40-100K mentioned.


You can now buy a flame-throwing robot dog for under $10,000