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    • ?
      A Former User @Lob12
      last edited by A Former User

      @Lob12 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

      I didn’t understand any of this

      Most of Intel’s chip production has been CPUs like the ones we’ve been using for decades in our home PCs. That is “x86” or similar. The 286, 386, 486, i3, i5 and i7 etc chips all use the x86 instruction set which is known as a “complex instruction set” or CISC. It basically means the fundamental/lowest level of programming for those chips has many instructions and many of those instructions are purpose built for very specific tasks.

      The competing architecture to CISC, is RISC, or, Reduced Instruction Set Computing. The philosophy behind RISC is that there are way fewer instructions and to do anything on the CPU you compose these more simple instructions into code that does the more specific or complex task. One of the benefits of RISC is that the tasks can be much more easily broken up and executed in parallel (performance) and they generally suck less power to do it (energy efficiency/battery life).

      RISC initially only became popular for regular people starting with phones because they had better battery performance. But then Apple shocked the industry by releasing their own Arm (RISC) chip which was really very fast and had a huge battery life (the M1). All new Macbooks since a year or two ago are all RISC. Microsoft also released Surface laptops running on Arm (RISC) chips but there hasn’t before been a non-Apple Arm chip that could compete with Apple’s own chips. That’s starting to change.

      I basically want a laptop with Apple M1/M2 performance and M1/M2 battery life but I don’t want one made by Apple. I was never going to get what I wanted while we were all stuck on x86.

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      • Gators1G
        Gators1 @A Former User
        last edited by

        @Hog that’s a really good explanation. So does CISC or RISC use depleted uranium shells?

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        • JamJ
          Jam
          last edited by Jam

          I took an M2 Air with me to Europe back in June, but I constantly worried about the risc of evaporation.

          It was thin, light and needed to be kept in an Air-tight case.

          "laissez les bons temps rouler!"

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          • Lob12L
            Lob12
            last edited by

            Jesus

            [IMG] https://image.ibb.co/nhhF0Q/new_sig_lob12.jpg [/IMG]

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            • TazzT
              Tazz
              last edited by Tazz

              Now I got this showing up

              https://www.makeuseof.com/node-js-streams-introduction/

              A stream is a fundamental programming tool that deals with the flow of data. At its core, a stream typically represents the sequential transfer of bytes from one point to another. Node.js’ official documentation defines a stream as an abstract interface that you can use to work with data.

              Transferring data on a computer or across a network is an ideal use of a stream.

              Streams in Node.js
              Streams have played an essential role in the success of Node.js. They are ideal for real-time data processing and event-driven applications, two prominent features of the Node.js runtime environment.

              GTFO

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              • TazzT
                Tazz @Guest
                last edited by

                @Gators1 I’m just as pissed off because it showing up on my Google news.

                GTFO

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                • JamJ
                  Jam @Guest
                  last edited by

                  @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                  @Tazz said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                  @Gators1 I’m just as pissed off because it showing up on my Google news.

                  I have a conference tomorrow next to the White House. I can pop over to the WH afterward and tell Joe to ban that shit and anything else you want me to convey to him?

                  Tell him to up his Geritol dosage!

                  "laissez les bons temps rouler!"

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                  • TazzT
                    Tazz @Guest
                    last edited by

                    @Gators1 Drop by today since he’s meeting with the Aussie PM and tell him Hog says hello

                    GTFO

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                    • TazzT
                      Tazz @Jam
                      last edited by Tazz

                      @Jam said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                      @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                      @Tazz said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                      @Gators1 I’m just as pissed off because it showing up on my Google news.

                      I have a conference tomorrow next to the White House. I can pop over to the WH afterward and tell Joe to ban that shit and anything else you want me to convey to him?

                      Tell him to up his Geritol dosage!

                      Fruits and Veggies or Balance of Nature too!
                      and buy gold!!

                      GTFO

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                      • Gators1G
                        Gators1 @Tazz
                        last edited by

                        @Tazz said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                        @Gators1 Drop by today since he’s meeting with the Aussie PM and tell him Hog says hello

                        Why would the Austrian PM care about a Cambodian? They are halfway around the world apart.

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                        • KilemallK
                          Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @A Former User
                          last edited by

                          @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                          Filipe Espósito  /  Oct 23, 2023  /  News

                          Qualcomm’s latest CPU for PCs beats Apple’s M1 and catches up with M2

                          Qualcomm’s latest CPU for PCs beats Apple’s M1 and catches up with M2

                          Apple has been doing a great job with its Apple Silicon “M” chips for computers, as they deliver more performance...

                          Awesome. Looks like we’re going to start getting laptops with M1 / eventually M2+ performance and efficiency (battery life) but aren’t locked into Apple’s ecosystem.

                          I hope Intel is seriously planning for a RISC future because x86 has no place in it IMO. Whether you’re an individual getting 50 to 100% better battery life in your laptop or a company saving a bunch of money in electricity costs, CISC doesn’t make much sense at any scale. But I could just be a RISC fanboy.

                          Ohhhhhh Hog.

                          People buy for software they want, not chips.

                          https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                          Never go full Lithu-
                          Twain

                          No editing is gonna save you now-
                          Wingmann

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                          • KilemallK
                            Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Lob12
                            last edited by

                            @Lob12 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                            @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                            Filipe Espósito  /  Oct 23, 2023  /  News

                            Qualcomm’s latest CPU for PCs beats Apple’s M1 and catches up with M2

                            Qualcomm’s latest CPU for PCs beats Apple’s M1 and catches up with M2

                            Apple has been doing a great job with its Apple Silicon “M” chips for computers, as they deliver more performance...

                            Awesome. Looks like we’re going to start getting laptops with M1 / eventually M2+ performance and efficiency (battery life) but aren’t locked into Apple’s ecosystem.

                            I hope Intel is seriously planning for a RISC future because x86 has no place in it IMO. Whether you’re an individual getting 50 to 100% better battery life in your laptop or a company saving a bunch of money in electricity costs, CISC doesn’t make much sense at any scale.

                            I didn’t understand any of this

                            It’s not for you, just buy what you are told to like a good sheep.

                            https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                            Never go full Lithu-
                            Twain

                            No editing is gonna save you now-
                            Wingmann

                            http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

                            http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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                            • Gators1G
                              Gators1
                              last edited by

                              Isn’t Apple required for left wing street cred?

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                              • PakoonP
                                Pakoon
                                last edited by

                                I’m waiting for Apple to upgrade MBP to M3 before I buy a new laptop.

                                ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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                                • KilemallK
                                  Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Jam
                                  last edited by

                                  @Jam said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                  @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                  @Tazz said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                  @Gators1 I’m just as pissed off because it showing up on my Google news.

                                  I have a conference tomorrow next to the White House. I can pop over to the WH afterward and tell Joe to ban that shit and anything else you want me to convey to him?

                                  Tell him to up his Geritol dosage!

                                  And get power loafers! The bionic kind!

                                  https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                                  Never go full Lithu-
                                  Twain

                                  No editing is gonna save you now-
                                  Wingmann

                                  http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

                                  http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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                                  • TazzT
                                    Tazz
                                    last edited by

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                                    GTFO

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @Kilemall
                                      last edited by A Former User

                                      @Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                      @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                      Filipe Espósito  /  Oct 23, 2023  /  News

                                      Qualcomm’s latest CPU for PCs beats Apple’s M1 and catches up with M2

                                      Qualcomm’s latest CPU for PCs beats Apple’s M1 and catches up with M2

                                      Apple has been doing a great job with its Apple Silicon “M” chips for computers, as they deliver more performance...

                                      Awesome. Looks like we’re going to start getting laptops with M1 / eventually M2+ performance and efficiency (battery life) but aren’t locked into Apple’s ecosystem.

                                      I hope Intel is seriously planning for a RISC future because x86 has no place in it IMO. Whether you’re an individual getting 50 to 100% better battery life in your laptop or a company saving a bunch of money in electricity costs, CISC doesn’t make much sense at any scale. But I could just be a RISC fanboy.

                                      Ohhhhhh Hog.

                                      People buy for software they want, not chips.

                                      Windows already runs on Arm and the apps will get there. Linux and most of its apps already cross compile to a half dozen architectures. Windows / apps targeting two is just new. I never tried it but when Apple switched from Intel they built in compatibility with the legacy apps using some kind of virtualization that was supposed to be excellent and fast.

                                      When the apps run anywhere, you can bet some people will be looking to buy the windows laptop with 16 hours battery life versus the one with 8.

                                      Oct 16, 2023

                                      Microsoft starts offering advice in how to code for Arm

                                      Microsoft starts offering advice in how to code for Arm

                                      In 2027 a quarter of PCs won’t use x86, and Redmond wants its ecosystem ready

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                                      • PakoonP
                                        Pakoon @A Former User
                                        last edited by

                                        @Hog I had a comp with a RISC chip already in the late 90s!

                                        SGI_O2-IMG_7208.jpg

                                        ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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                                        • KilemallK
                                          Kilemall Careful, railroad agent
                                          last edited by

                                          Windows had that built in decades ago for their server software, when the hot young chip thing was DEC Alpha.

                                          Windows NT - Wikipedia

                                          https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                                          Never go full Lithu-
                                          Twain

                                          No editing is gonna save you now-
                                          Wingmann

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                                          • PakoonP
                                            Pakoon @Guest
                                            last edited by

                                            @Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                            @Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                            @Hog I had a comp with a RISC chip already in the late 90s!

                                            SGI_O2-IMG_7208.jpg

                                            Most of my Unix friends learned their craft on SGI workstations cause they all worked for a Dallas packaging graphics firm which among other things had the Star Wars toy box contract.

                                            Great machines. And I really liked the IRIX.

                                            ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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