The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread
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@tigger said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
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@Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
That’s tantamount to fraud.
I guess we can’t tell from that one email if his request went anywhere. Given the tension between attracting/retaining users with a useful product and wanting to squeeze every last dollar out of them, I guess it shouldn’t be surprising that some people within google would be pushing for what he’s asking for.
I also don’t know who he is in terms of seniority but the guy he’s replying to “Anil Sabharwal” seems to be a big deal from my brief search.
What is the request though? As far as I can tell it’s something to do with rolling back a launch which redirected some queries from chrome away from search, e.g. if you type “Facebook” going directly to Facebook instead of Google. I’m unsure I see how that is “fraud”.
It’s fraud because the people paying for the ad clicks are getting falsely inflated results by a manipulation of the search results from a particular browser rather than actively interested quality clicks. Conversion rate to paying customer is going to be lower, so value paid is not value bought.
Maybe explain what you believe is happening and what evidence the email provides? Because I am not following you at all. Everyone in the thread is, as far as I can tell, suggesting the exact opposite.
Im not really that interested in doing a thesis with annotated references on my reaction to yet another tortured google soul about to do evil for the bottom line. Maybe if I win the lottery and tire of endless hookers and blow.
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@Jam said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
I Googled SQV related to sales (try just “SQV” without sales and see what you get) and I got, in the “headline”"
Sales Quantity Variance (SQV) Difference between the actual contribution margin and the standard contribution with sales mix and sales volume held constant. Difference between the actual product mix and the standard product mix with sales volume and contribution margin held constant.
And then I searched under “query rollback”, a new term for me and got:
The query executes a ROLLBACK TRANSACTION statement. This statement abandons all changes made inside the transaction. The query ends before reaching either of these two statements. In that case, BigQuery automatically rolls back the transaction.
If I had a very cynical mind (a condition not contrary to fact) I’d be thinking that, a query rollback on a Google search related to a product search, would end in a shorter or shallower response and allow selected ads to pop up quicker in the responses?
Would this amount to ‘putting one’s finger on the scales’ a bit or some form of query/response results manipulation?
I don’t pretend to understand all the jargon and don’t want to dig much deeper, but it seems like the search/query team and the sales of advertising team may be considering working together to be sure that the peeps buying ads get more eyeball time at the expense of more “honest” responses to queries?
As I’ve said, I do not care enough to try and dig more deeply and I can be misinterpreting what I read due to a not so deep understanding of the terms.
Query rollback to me looks like a simple database term. You have a fail or error state in the middle of a transaction- program is set to make things like they were as though the transaction never ran. Program rolls back through the changes already done, typically through whatever log/audit trail the database is using.
Query should usually be more of a report function and not something you are concerned with tracking that much, except for a search engine monetizing tracking and reporting on such.
One example of a query I could think of where rollback is desirable is say an ATM account balance request. If the account cannot be reported on because it’s midnight bank process time, the query should back out the moment it’s going to send you the unavailable message, as an incomplete transaction and therefore rollback any trace of the transaction so you do not get charged.
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OK, this is pretty cool.
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That’s pretty sick. They could have saved a shitton of money though just doing that in CGI since all those dumbasses at the show were watching the show on their fucking phones. Why do people do that rather than experiencing reality?
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
That’s pretty sick. They could have saved a shitton of money though just doing that in CGI since all those dumbasses at the show were watching the show on their fucking phones. Why do people do that rather than experiencing reality?
Ever seen people film fireworks?
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LTE cell phone messages, data and voice from Starlink without any special hardware coming soon they claim:
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If it works. Our CEO did seem to think it was imminent. The original Iridium network was supposed to replace cellphones in the minds of the dumbass marketing people, but one of the big issues was the phone only worked outside. Buildings would block the signals since they were too weak so you would have to go outside to make a satellite call. Might not be a big deal if you have dual mode with traditional cellular while you are in coverage zones, but that’s also potentially two bills.
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But on the plus side, now Google can track you even when you aren’t near a tower.
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@Stu said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
But on the plus side, now Google can track you even when you aren’t near a tower.
Worse, Musk can track you and tweet about the dumb shit you are doing out in the middle of nowhere.
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I’m sure Alexa knows even more about you.
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Memory. Not SSD.
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How many FPS?
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.9999
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More than tgtcwtf
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Disposable drones carrying disposable passengers.
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@Tazz said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
Disposable drones carrying disposable passengers.
so a flying Yugo then
If no set of moral ideas were truer or better than any other, there would be no sense in preferring civilized morality to savage morality, or Christian morality to Nazi morality. In fact, of course, we all do believe that some moralities are better than others . . . . The moment you say that one set of moral ideas can be better than another, you are, in fact, measuring them both by a standard . . . admitting that there is such a thing as a real Right, independent of what people think, and that some people's ideas get nearer to that real Right than others."
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@Tazz said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
OK, this is pretty cool.
watch in full screen modeDoes anyone else find something wrong with a sphere that is “526 feet wide and 366 feet tall”, or is it just me?
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@oyaji said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
@Tazz said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:
OK, this is pretty cool.
watch in full screen modeDoes anyone else find something wrong with a sphere that is “526 feet wide and 366 feet tall”, or is it just me?
They are referring to the full building including seating at the base of the sphere… So no it’s just you being literalist.
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It seems to be more of a hemisphere though, maybe 69% or 70% of the height of a a full sphere.
That actually explains the lack of full ‘sphericality’.
Oyaji was on to something. ;-)
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