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    • HogH
      Hog @Gators1
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      @Gators1 Nah, not yet.

      I built an app in Dart/Flutter while I was away and Gemini Flash generated about 95% of the code for it. I’d never written any Dart before and, although I’d been guiding the AI on architecture and pulling it up on stuff that was obviously wrong or even dangerous, I was literally 200 commits in before I thought I better learn something about the Dart language. I remember being a few minutes into the first Dart beginner video thinking, “oh, so that’s how you declare a variable in Dart”. Which was pretty funny.

      Admittedly I’m a tight ass so I don’t know what the $200 or $800 a month coding models are like but although an amazing tool, AI generated code has a lot of minefields. I’m of the opinion now that I’d hate to have to code this stuff all manually because AI is such a productivity boost but I’d also never trust it to not give you an unmaintainable mess if you just one-shotted it or let the AI do it all without monitoring it and guiding it.

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      • Gators1G
        Gators1 @Hog
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        @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

        @Gators1 Nah, not yet.

        I built an app in Dart/Flutter while I was away and Gemini Flash generated about 95% of the code for it. I’d never written any Dart before and, although I’d been guiding the AI on architecture and pulling it up on stuff that was obviously wrong or even dangerous, I was literally 200 commits in before I thought I better learn something about the Dart language. I remember being a few minutes into the first Dart beginner video thinking, “oh, so that’s how you declare a variable in Dart”. Which was pretty funny.

        Admittedly I’m a tight ass so I don’t know what the $200 or $800 a month coding models are like but although an amazing tool, AI generated code has a lot of minefields. I’m of the opinion now that I’d hate to have to code this stuff all manually because AI is such a productivity boost but I’d also never trust it to not give you an unmaintainable mess if you just one-shotted it or let the AI do it all without monitoring it and guiding it.

        Agree. Tried to get GitHub copilot to code a more or less simple web app with its advanced agents. Completely fucked the thing up to the point where I trashed it. I tried iterating with GPT to come up with an approach to it and it had some pretty cool ideas.

        Web part is easy but it has to render maps from like 100M records a month so looking for as much optimization as I can get and has some non-trivial distributed computing to build on AWS. It had an interesting approach to use spatial sorting and predicate pushdown to minimize the data pulls and also told me how to build a cache layer that I wasn’t even considering. Seems like the pattern, I go from fuck you to that’s amazing and back.

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        • GustafG
          Gustaf
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          I had ChatGPT make me a rental analysis calculator. Before I could even tell it what I wanted it to do it wrote all the code in Python. It’s 98% perfect.

          "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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          • Gators1G
            Gators1 @Gustaf
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            @Gustaf said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

            I had ChatGPT make me a rental analysis calculator. Before I could even tell it what I wanted it to do it wrote all the code in Python. It’s 98% perfect.

            I thought it had guard rails? Great now we have AI slumlords.

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            • HogH
              Hog @Gators1
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              @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

              Seems like the pattern, I go from fuck you to that’s amazing and back.

              Yeah that captures my own experience really well.

              Another thing I noticed while developing this Flutter app was burn out. Although it could generate what would take me a day to code in a few seconds, it meant that the pace of you having to think about architecture or design decisions was way, way quicker and I’d burn out quicker. I didn’t realize that previously a lot of that rote programming where you are just in the zone and doing stuff for hours that the AI could easily do was kind of meditative. While you weren’t consciously thinking about it, it was often during those zen coding sessions that I’d come to realize things about what I was building and then be ready to act on it when I’d finished the chore part.

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              • Gators1G
                Gators1
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                I wish I had time for that. I am juggling too much shit and it’s hard for me to focus on coding for more than an hour without some idiot pinging me to do their thinking for them or my dumbass employees wanting me to check their work. Wish I had never become a manager but didn’t have much choice.

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                • HogH
                  Hog @Gustaf
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                  @Gustaf said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                  I had ChatGPT make me a rental analysis calculator. Before I could even tell it what I wanted it to do it wrote all the code in Python. It’s 98% perfect.

                  My experience with it reminds me of that nursery rhyme, “When she was good, she was very, very good, But when she was bad, she was horrid.”

                  It can be amazing with what it can do it when when it works though.

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                  • KilemallK
                    Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Hog
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                    @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                    @Gators1 Nah, not yet.

                    I built an app in Dart/Flutter while I was away and Gemini Flash generated about 95% of the code for it. I’d never written any Dart before and, although I’d been guiding the AI on architecture and pulling it up on stuff that was obviously wrong or even dangerous, I was literally 200 commits in before I thought I better learn something about the Dart language. I remember being a few minutes into the first Dart beginner video thinking, “oh, so that’s how you declare a variable in Dart”. Which was pretty funny.

                    Admittedly I’m a tight ass so I don’t know what the $200 or $800 a month coding models are like but although an amazing tool, AI generated code has a lot of minefields. I’m of the opinion now that I’d hate to have to code this stuff all manually because AI is such a productivity boost but I’d also never trust it to not give you an unmaintainable mess if you just one-shotted it or let the AI do it all without monitoring it and guiding it.

                    Fortunately we American kids were schooled on the risks of ai jerks.

                    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-episode-where-george-jetson-rages-against-the-machine-146315456/

                    https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                    Never go full Lithu-
                    Twain

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                    • HogH
                      Hog @Kilemall
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                      @Kilemall Got a bonus new (to me) word out of that article, “teledactyl”.

                      https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/teledactyl

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                        oyaji @Hog
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                        @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                        @Kilemall Got a bonus new (to me) word out of that article, “teledactyl”.

                        https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/teledactyl

                        You might enjoy this one too, if you don’t already know it:

                        polydactyl

                        ernest hemingway’s polydactyl cats

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                        • HogH
                          Hog
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                          The financial services firms allegedly each paid $25 million and $36.2 million in Bitcoin in 2023—the highest payments listed in the complaint.

                          Amanda Gerut  /  Sep 19

                          London teenager orchestrated 'help desk' extortion scheme against 47 U.S. companies that netted $115 million says DOJ | Fortune

                          London teenager orchestrated 'help desk' extortion scheme against 47 U.S. companies that netted $115 million says DOJ | Fortune

                          A 19-year old is facing a maximum 95 years in prison for allegedly calling company help desks and convincing employees to reset passwords in a massive scheme.

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                          • HogH
                            Hog
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                            Palantir: Because There Are Some Lines Google Won't Cross
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                              oyaji @Hog
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                              @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                              Palantir: Because There Are Some Lines Google Won't Cross

                              Well, that didn’t take long at all, did it.

                              © 2015 - 2025 oyaji

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                                Blanks
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                                Palantir is both 1984 and 1934 wrapped up in one. A growing surveillance empire with some bizarre quasi-religious flavor, with its leaders espousing some weird techno-messianic transhumanism belief system that feels more like a cult of power, or Satanism, than an actual company. And Trump has handed them the full backing of the US government.

                                We are doomed.

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                                • HogH
                                  Hog
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                                  What I find wryly amusing is that Thiel, by his own words, has read the LotR 40 times or something yet names his surveillance company after the object that Sauron used to both spy on and corrupt others.

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                                    Blanks @Hog
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                                    @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                    What I find wryly amusing is that Thiel, by his own words, has read the LotR 40 times or something yet names his surveillance company after the object that Sauron used to both spy on and corrupt others.

                                    He’s probably one of those types that thinks Sauron is actually the good guy who wants to bring order to a chaotic world.

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                                      oyaji @Hog
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                                      @Hog said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                      What I find wryly amusing is that Thiel, by his own words, has read the LotR 40 times or something yet names his surveillance company after the object that Sauron used to both spy on and corrupt others.

                                      Sauron did not make them though.

                                      Fëanor did.

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                                      • HogH
                                        Hog
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                                        Maybe we should be grateful we’ve moved past the rank hypocrisy in giving things benign, market friendly names when they actually do or intend the opposite. I look forward to the reading of the “We’re Going to Fuck You Over Act (2025)”.

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                                        • JamJ
                                          Jam
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                                          Progress toward beating serious illness . . .

                                          https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/brunkow-ramsdell-sakaguchi-win-2025-nobel-medicine-prize-2025-10-06/

                                          "laissez les bons temps rouler!"

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                                            oyaji @Jam
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                                            @Jam said in The OFFICIAL tech stuff thread:

                                            Progress toward beating serious illness . . .

                                            https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/brunkow-ramsdell-sakaguchi-win-2025-nobel-medicine-prize-2025-10-06/

                                            Ramsdell could not be reached by Reuters – nor by Brunkow or Bluestone, with Bluestone saying he may be on a hiking trip in an area without cell phone reception… Among companies in the early race, Ramsdell’s Sonoma Biotherapeutics is partly funded, opens new tab and supported by U.S. drugmaker Regeneron (REGN.O), opens new tab to work on therapies against diseases including inflammatory bowel disease.

                                            Also targeting that condition, Quell Therapeutics, opens new tab has partnered with AstraZeneca (AZN.L), opens new tab. Other biotech firms exploring the approach include Bayer’s (BAYGn.DE), opens new tabBlueRock

                                            Sounds like a lot of money at stake here. I sure hope Ramsdell makes it home okay from his incommunicado hiking trip…

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