The OFFICIAL programming thread
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Gotta love open source guys. AWS gouges you for a NAT gateway…someone writes “fuck NAT” to save you money.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/1f06hfb/do_i_really_need_nat_gateway_its/
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
@Hog time to move back home!
As a contractor, I already had that right. The client also has the right to let me go at no notice.
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
@Hog time to move back home!
I just read the linked article and saw this:
Australians worked on average 281 hours of unpaid overtime in 2023, according to a survey, opens new tab last year by the Australia Institute
That’s actually a lot if true. Works out to be about 5 hours per week. Given a huge number of them wouldn’t be doing any overtime at all, a lot of them must be doing 10+ hours a week.
Australia, generally speaking, doesn’t have the work until it kills you culture of the US and Japan either.
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Cuz you spend so much time on walkabout?
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First I thought this guy’s command of English wasn’t so good so I asked a follow up question to confirm what he meant. Then I discovered he’s actually a master troll:


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Nobody talks to our Hog that way! How do we get in this chat?!!
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@Gustaf said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
Nobody talks to our Hog that way! How do we get in this chat?!!
Yes
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I really like JavaScript so it’s kind of annoying to read people constantly shitting on the language but this is a new low:
There is a serious point, though, which I started to glimpse at PyCon: that the values and assumptions contained in programming languages inform the software that’s written with them and change the world accordingly. By the time I’d learned that Brendan Eich, author of JavaScript, is an anti-vaxxer and was a supporter of a campaign to have same-sex marriage nixed in California, I wasn’t surprised.
Brendan Eich is an asshole and therefore assholishness is built into the language?
Ignoring the above nonsense, ordinarily, I’d figure my liking JavaScript must be a reflection of some deficiency on my part given so many people seem to hate it. But then I really like Python and Rust too so I think the JavaScript haters are either noobs or just repeating shit they’ve read endlessly for internet points.
(JavaScript has its ugly bits but then so does Python, Rust and every other language I’ve learned - you make yourself aware of them and code around them.)
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I remember when XML was the new fad around the turn of the century.
It’s given me immense satisfaction to see XML gradually but steadily being replaced with JSON. Talk about an IT industry misstep.
Edit: I should qualify that I hate XML as a general data format. It’s barely readable by human or machine (try writing an XML parser). There are some use cases where it is useful.
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Here you go Hog, for when your employer says they can replace you with AI.
https://devops.com/study-finds-no-devops-productivity-gains-from-generative-ai/amp/
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
I remember when XML was the new fad around the turn of the century.
It’s given me immense satisfaction to see XML gradually but steadily being replaced with JSON. Talk about an IT industry misstep.
Edit: I should qualify that I hate XML as a general data format. It’s barely readable by human or machine (try writing an XML parser). There are some use cases where it is useful.
What do you think of SGML, HTMLs daddy?
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
Here you go Hog, for when your employer says they can replace you with AI.
https://devops.com/study-finds-no-devops-productivity-gains-from-generative-ai/amp/
Basically Microsoft Bob/Clippy.
You should shudder if you hear the words “I am from Microsoft and I am here to help you.”
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GPT is useful to me as faster than Googling some shit, but it’s not doing my job.
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A quarter million people signed up to learn OOP from her. OOP must be super interesting.
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
A quarter million people signed up to learn OOP from her. OOP must be super interesting.

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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
OOP must be super interesting.
It was on the nose for a while but I like it. The problem is the way some programmers torture the rest of us with their shitty abstractions. Deep inheritance hierarchies can be hard to work with but “favor composition over inheritance” and usually you’re fine.
I like functional programming too though so I make a crappy evangelist for any side of the usual flame wars.
Spaces > tabs.
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
OOP must be super interesting.
It was on the nose for a while but I like it. The problem is the way other programmers torture the rest of us with their shitty abstractions. Deep inheritance hierarchies are can be hard to work with but “favor composition over inheritance” and it’s fine.
I like functional programming too though so I make a crappy evangelist for any side of the usual flame wars.
Spaces > tabs.
Actually my post failed because fucking embedding doesn’t work on this shit forum. I think the popularity in learning OOP has more to do with her thumbnails.

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Looks like I’m going to be learning some OOP!

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