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    • Gators1G
      Gators1
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      We need this too! My morale is at rock bottom.

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      • Gators1G
        Gators1
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        This is kind of interesting, especially thinking about how half-assed some of the thinking is about systems in my company. Basically Cox decides to put a bunch of functionality for a customer to control their own hardware in their account website and by doing so exposes those same capabilities to hackers via api calls.

        researcher accidentally finds 0-day affecting his entire internet service provider

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        • ?
          A Former User
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          Jun 30, 2024

          A Git story: Not so fun this time | Brachiosoft Blog

          A Git story: Not so fun this time | Brachiosoft Blog

          Before TeamWare was completed, Larry continued developing NSElite, which would make the TeamWare team look bad: one guy with Perl was outpacing eight people with C++. The VP then told Larry, “This has been reported to Scooter (Scott McNealy, Sun’s CEO). If you release it again, you’re fired.”

          Urgh.

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          • ?
            A Former User
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            Love this. 25 year old bug that is fixed in the most recent Firefox release:

            33654 - TEXTAREA incorrectly applying ROWS= and COLS= (horizontal / vertical scrollbar extra space, with overlay scrollbars disabled)

            There’s been activity on that bug report nearly every year since it was created in August 2000. I assume they had to wait for the chosen one to be born, grow up and graduate college before joining the Firefox project to fix it.

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            • tiggerT
              tigger
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              I have a Firefox scaling bug somewhere that hasn’t been fixed for decades

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              • Gators1G
                Gators1
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                Maybe that chosen one is you? Fixing some old ass code seems easier that pulling a sword out of a stone and ruling filthy England for the rest of your life.

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                • Gators1G
                  Gators1
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                  @Poo, let’s write some OSS government software that will secretly transfer all of Tigger’s Nazi gold to us!!! We will be rich!!!

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                  • Gators1G
                    Gators1
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                    This is the tech job market today.

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
                      last edited by A Former User

                      Has AI hype jumped the shark yet? It must be close with this:

                      As mentioned, LLMs have emerged as a game-changing solution for mitigating the risk of technical debt. AI has made enormous strides in understanding and generating text, and with its ability to process and produce human-like responses, it’s evident that LLMs can be integrated with existing codebases and ticketing platforms to create self-healing code.

                      Self-healing code! Stupid humans can’t write self healing code!

                      Maybe the good stuff is still coming but I’ll be less cynical when I experience an LLM generate a non trivial code example that wasn’t broken in some way or other.

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                      • B
                        Blanks
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                        Code is just like the human body, if it gets a boo-boo the LLMs will send blood and begin scabbing it over for repair.

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                        • Gators1G
                          Gators1
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                          Kind of a thought provoking piece @Poo. Being in data I am always focused on value because that’s mostly what I am trying to deliver. My management is just trying to deliver bits of software though, checking off some feature they committed to. My team specifically has spent the last 8 months developing their CICD/Terraform process so their development process is solid and not delivered a fucking thing. Not sure I agree with his minimalization theories without giving a thought to the future. I have seen projects get in trouble because they work, but the result is very hard to untangle and scale or whatever later when the company may hit some acceleration point and needs that scale right now. The idea ring true for a startup though that is just trying to put something out on the internet to get funding. Does that really work with complex systems?

                          Working Software Is Not The Primary Measure of Progress

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                          • KilemallK
                            Kilemall Careful, railroad agent
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                            The stuff I built lasts for decades, but that’s mainframes and dropping out of everything but finance and banking.

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                            Never go full Lithu-
                            Twain

                            No editing is gonna save you now-
                            Wingmann

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                            • Gators1G
                              Gators1 @Kilemall
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                              @Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                              The stuff I built lasts for decades, but that’s mainframes and dropping out of everything but finance and banking.

                              His argument though is that programmers should be building for short-term customer value, not worrying about 10 years from now. Agile displaced waterfall because waterfall had long ass cycles where people were assuming what the customer wanted and there was nothing they could do if they got it wrong. When the internet came and deployment cycles were shortened, it didn’t make sense to do long ass cycles if you could just deploy and pivot if it wasn’t what they wanted. He’s taking agile in a different direction and saying the objective isn’t to deliver software every cycle, but deliver value. So the priorities are driven by things that improve the customer experience or create demand, not stuff like automation, refactoring, etc. I kinda agree, but also ignoring some of that back end stuff can bite you in the ass later.

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                              • ?
                                A Former User @Gators1
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                                @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                Not sure I agree with his minimalization theories without giving a thought to the future. I have seen projects get in trouble because they work, but the result is very hard to untangle and scale or whatever later when the company may hit some acceleration point and needs that scale right now.

                                Yeah I was thinking something similar when he said this @10:15:

                                “If the performance problem doesn’t matter to the customer, then it is fundamentally not a problem”.

                                I agree with a lot of other stuff he said but the above is just irresponsible.

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                                • Gators1G
                                  Gators1
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                                  At least it made me think about the concepts. I like that kind of stuff over just repeating “Agile akbar” over and over. Been trying to push the idea of customer value and we deliver information, not a data platform at my company, but my CIO’s eyes glass over when I say that. She’s purely about delivering features on a roadmap.

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User
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                                    The problem is that all of this stuff doesn’t boil down into 5 neat principles you can write on a whiteboard and, whatever methodology you come up with is going to be interpreted, implemented and enforced by a lot of myopic bureaucrats with no intuition for the subject.

                                    I think a shift to focusing on customer value over working software is no doubt a good step though.

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                                    • Gators1G
                                      Gators1
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                                      Agree

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                                      • Gators1G
                                        Gators1
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                                        Gotta love open source guys. AWS gouges you for a NAT gateway…someone writes “fuck NAT” to save you money.

                                        https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/1f06hfb/do_i_really_need_nat_gateway_its/

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                                        • Gators1G
                                          Gators1
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                                          @Hog time to move back home!

                                          https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australian-employees-now-have-right-ignore-work-emails-calls-after-hours-2024-08-25/

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                                          • ?
                                            A Former User @Gators1
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                                            @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                            @Hog time to move back home!

                                            https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australian-employees-now-have-right-ignore-work-emails-calls-after-hours-2024-08-25/

                                            As a contractor, I already had that right. The client also has the right to let me go at no notice.

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