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    • KilemallK
      Kilemall Careful, railroad agent
      last edited by

      It should be squeeeeal.

      https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

      Never go full Lithu-
      Twain

      No editing is gonna save you now-
      Wingmann

      http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

      http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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      • ?
        A Former User
        last edited by A Former User

        It seems that every other developer that writes code I support has gone to the same school of programming. At that school, they must have taught that everything must be in one function. They must think that if you aren’t scrolling up and down 5 to 10 screen pages all of the time trying to see what the hell is happening inside a single condition then then you aren’t earning your pay. I fucking hate it.

        Unless you are processing a bajillion records in a loop and can’t afford the overhead, modularize your code as soon as gets unwieldy so that method names and signatures explain the flow.

        /rant

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        • Gators1G
          Gators1
          last edited by

          Guessing the code wasn’t unit tested either. On the bright side without programmers like that, you might not have a job.

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          • ?
            A Former User
            last edited by A Former User

            Bit of an anti-rant but, this morning I refactored the behemoth method that led to the earlier rant. I was particularly impressed with how easy and clever the refactoring tools I used were so I sent out a meeting invite to demo the whole process to the 7 or 8 devs I regularly work with.

            I titled the invite “Refactoring for fun and profit” and made everyone an optional attendee so I didn’t know how many (if any) would turn up. They all did and they were really impressed with the demo and a couple made comments like “the code is beautiful now”. So I’m pleased they were so receptive to it.

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            • TazzT
              Tazz
              last edited by

              This is all I can add

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              GTFO

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              • Gators1G
                Gators1
                last edited by

                The gorilla is bad at seeeeequel!

                Had a similar situation many years ago in the early days of business computing. We connected MS Access, like one of the first versions, to our accounting system via ODBC because the system reports sucked ass. IT created credentials and didn’t worry about permissions so we had read/write access to the system database. A coworker was making a report and didn’t know Access very well, so she started deleting rows in the query output like it was Excel. The deletes passed straight through to the source system and after a while people from accounts payable started raging that vendor records had “disappeared”. Poor girl thought she was going to get fired that day.

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                • TazzT
                  Tazz @Gators1
                  last edited by

                  @Gators1 Did she work at CRS by chance?

                  GTFO

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                  • ?
                    A Former User
                    last edited by

                    I was just installing an Eclipse theme and saw this which I liked:

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                    • O
                      oyaji
                      last edited by oyaji

                      the image above made me think of this one:

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                      aww crap, i thought surely i could invert it here. doing so makes it look like a rocket ejection frm a P-38. i posted it thus years back in teH Anger in the OOBF, where it was good for a laugh.

                      © 2015 - 2025 oyaji

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                      • Gators1G
                        Gators1
                        last edited by

                        We need this too! My morale is at rock bottom.

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                        • Gators1G
                          Gators1
                          last edited by

                          This is kind of interesting, especially thinking about how half-assed some of the thinking is about systems in my company. Basically Cox decides to put a bunch of functionality for a customer to control their own hardware in their account website and by doing so exposes those same capabilities to hackers via api calls.

                          researcher accidentally finds 0-day affecting his entire internet service provider

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                          • ?
                            A Former User
                            last edited by

                            Jun 30, 2024

                            A Git story: Not so fun this time | Brachiosoft Blog

                            A Git story: Not so fun this time | Brachiosoft Blog

                            Before TeamWare was completed, Larry continued developing NSElite, which would make the TeamWare team look bad: one guy with Perl was outpacing eight people with C++. The VP then told Larry, “This has been reported to Scooter (Scott McNealy, Sun’s CEO). If you release it again, you’re fired.”

                            Urgh.

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                            • ?
                              A Former User
                              last edited by A Former User

                              Love this. 25 year old bug that is fixed in the most recent Firefox release:

                              33654 - TEXTAREA incorrectly applying ROWS= and COLS= (horizontal / vertical scrollbar extra space, with overlay scrollbars disabled)

                              There’s been activity on that bug report nearly every year since it was created in August 2000. I assume they had to wait for the chosen one to be born, grow up and graduate college before joining the Firefox project to fix it.

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                              • tiggerT
                                tigger
                                last edited by

                                I have a Firefox scaling bug somewhere that hasn’t been fixed for decades

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                                • Gators1G
                                  Gators1
                                  last edited by

                                  Maybe that chosen one is you? Fixing some old ass code seems easier that pulling a sword out of a stone and ruling filthy England for the rest of your life.

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                                  • Gators1G
                                    Gators1
                                    last edited by

                                    @Poo, let’s write some OSS government software that will secretly transfer all of Tigger’s Nazi gold to us!!! We will be rich!!!

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                                    • Gators1G
                                      Gators1
                                      last edited by

                                      This is the tech job market today.

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User
                                        last edited by A Former User

                                        Has AI hype jumped the shark yet? It must be close with this:

                                        As mentioned, LLMs have emerged as a game-changing solution for mitigating the risk of technical debt. AI has made enormous strides in understanding and generating text, and with its ability to process and produce human-like responses, it’s evident that LLMs can be integrated with existing codebases and ticketing platforms to create self-healing code.

                                        Self-healing code! Stupid humans can’t write self healing code!

                                        Maybe the good stuff is still coming but I’ll be less cynical when I experience an LLM generate a non trivial code example that wasn’t broken in some way or other.

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                                        • B
                                          Blanks
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                                          Code is just like the human body, if it gets a boo-boo the LLMs will send blood and begin scabbing it over for repair.

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                                          • Gators1G
                                            Gators1
                                            last edited by

                                            Kind of a thought provoking piece @Poo. Being in data I am always focused on value because that’s mostly what I am trying to deliver. My management is just trying to deliver bits of software though, checking off some feature they committed to. My team specifically has spent the last 8 months developing their CICD/Terraform process so their development process is solid and not delivered a fucking thing. Not sure I agree with his minimalization theories without giving a thought to the future. I have seen projects get in trouble because they work, but the result is very hard to untangle and scale or whatever later when the company may hit some acceleration point and needs that scale right now. The idea ring true for a startup though that is just trying to put something out on the internet to get funding. Does that really work with complex systems?

                                            Working Software Is Not The Primary Measure of Progress

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