The OFFICIAL programming thread
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@Jam said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
No toys for either of you I’m afraid. The changes went to production
sixfour hours ago and nothing broke that I know of.OK, so here is where you tell him that your son actually wrote the email suggesting that they don’t go forward with the changes. Not to worry, you’ve changed the password to “Sondontknowitnow1234.”
It’s in production now anyway with no adverse consequences so it doesn’t really matter what I had said any more. And we don’t have an elegant way to rollback changes even they wanted to. As it is, it looks like I made the right call so I wouldn’t want to undo that.
Speaking of the tools we wrestle with, the problem was caused by a change to a method (that was going to prod) where other people working on a different issue had been modifying other parts of the same class and their changes were staying in QA. The issue rested on whether the CD tool would only migrate the change for the single method or not. The code for the CD tool is over 30 years old in some parts and is pretty opaque in terms of what it does sometimes. It was state of the art before CD was even a thing but it’s not any more.
We’ve just got approval to move to a git based CD pipeline this year which should get rid of all these issues. (Most) source rollbacks will be a cinch and even in the one QA system we’ll be able to test different batches of changes in isolation just by changing branches.
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
@Jam said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
@Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
No toys for either of you I’m afraid. The changes went to production
sixfour hours ago and nothing broke that I know of.OK, so here is where you tell him that your son actually wrote the email suggesting that they don’t go forward with the changes. Not to worry, you’ve changed the password to “Sondontknowitnow1234.”
It’s in production now anyway with no adverse consequences so it doesn’t really matter what I had said any more. And we don’t have an elegant way to rollback changes even they wanted to. As it is, it looks like I made the right call so I wouldn’t want to undo that.
Speaking of the tools we wrestle with, the problem was caused by a change to a method (that was going to prod) where other people working on a different issue had been modifying other parts of the same class and their changes were staying in QA. The issue rested on whether the CD tool would only migrate the change for the single method or not. The code for the CD tool is over 30 years old in some parts and is pretty opaque in terms of what it does sometimes. It was state of the art before CD was even a thing but it’s not any more.
We’ve just got approval to move to a git based CD pipeline this year which should get rid of all these issues. (Most) source rollbacks will be a cinch and even in the one QA system we’ll be able to test different batches of changes in isolation just by changing branches.
Please post your git pipeline script here so I can do a find and replace your company ahit with my company shit and use it. I have learned enough tools this year and am not looking forward to diving into Gitlab too.
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I was wanting to doing some bitwise operations in my calculator app this morning and couldn’t get my function calls to work so I had to RTFM. For who knows what reason, they’ve decided that function arguments need to be separated by semicolons instead of commas. I hadn’t seen that before so I asked Gemini:
I love bucking convention when it delivers something new. Otherwise, stick to fucking conventions. You aren’t a special snowflake.
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Fucking hackerz!
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I handle no extension files at my job. Some programmers or vendors like those.
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The above guy has a pretty amusing, if sometimes a bit overly toxic, blog where he rants about his job and the industry. I’m frankly amazed he hasn’t been fired for it since it would be trivial to identify him using all the details he’s posted.
Anyway, this in particular amused me just now:
Consider this: the lawyer I mentioned in this post had opinions on whether statically typed languages are superior to dynamically typed languages, and had engaged in some complex meta-cognition. See, they reflected on how every time they felt that something in Go was ugly, it later turned out that Go was well-designed and they simply didn’t understand the issues being designed around. This turned into a rough rule that seeing a problem with Go typically reflected a flaw in their own understanding, thus flaw with Go is actually best processed as flaw in own brain until proven otherwise.
I don’t know much about Go, but that’s not important. What is important is that I’m on my knees, arms outstretched, gazing up at the sky, tears streaming down my face, and begging to have one question answered:
Why does a practicing lawyer have more thoughts on programming than every CTO I’ve had a 1:1 with at a big company?
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
The above guy has a pretty amusing, if sometimes a bit overly toxic, blog where he rants about his job and the industry. I’m frankly amazed he hasn’t been fired for it since it would be trivial to identify him using all the details he’s posted.
Anyway, this in particular amused me just now:
Consider this: the lawyer I mentioned in this post had opinions on whether statically typed languages are superior to dynamically typed languages, and had engaged in some complex meta-cognition. See, they reflected on how every time they felt that something in Go was ugly, it later turned out that Go was well-designed and they simply didn’t understand the issues being designed around. This turned into a rough rule that seeing a problem with Go typically reflected a flaw in their own understanding, thus flaw with Go is actually best processed as flaw in own brain until proven otherwise.
I don’t know much about Go, but that’s not important. What is important is that I’m on my knees, arms outstretched, gazing up at the sky, tears streaming down my face, and begging to have one question answered:
Why does a practicing lawyer have more thoughts on programming than every CTO I’ve had a 1:1 with at a big company?
Because CTOs are selected for big org operations not developers. Whatever programming they had which likely wasn’t involved gets left behind on that techie management climb.
I stay where I’m at in large measure cause my manager groks techie attitude and will fight for us in a way that gets too cray cray management off our back.
That doesn’t mean we get our way- increasing security measures for instance are now making our job more difficult, but we aren’t bucking it cause happening anyway and a reasonable goal, but he’s got our back for excessive bureaucracy or hoops.
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@Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
Because CTOs are selected for big org operations not developers. Whatever programming they had which likely wasn’t involved gets left behind on that techie management climb.
Yeah I thought something similar when I read it but it was still amusingly written I thought.
I really know nothing about the mid to upper management at the place I work. My direct supervisor and his boss are smart and are programmers/ex-programmers which is a huge help since it’s easy to explain issues to them when I need to. I maybe cross paths with someone in middle management once every few years and it’s usually when there’s 30 to 50 people on the call because something shat itself in production.
I’m also lucky I have two lower level managers (one IT, one in a business area) who go in to bat for me every 3 months when my contract comes up for renewal. This next renewal which just got approved apparently came with “an option to extend” which I assume means the mid level manager got tired of being harassed by those guys and I’ll get a renewal next time easily if there’s work (and there always is).
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
The above guy has a pretty amusing, if sometimes a bit overly toxic, blog where he rants about his job and the industry. I’m frankly amazed he hasn’t been fired for it since it would be trivial to identify him using all the details he’s posted.
Anyway, this in particular amused me just now:
Consider this: the lawyer I mentioned in this post had opinions on whether statically typed languages are superior to dynamically typed languages, and had engaged in some complex meta-cognition. See, they reflected on how every time they felt that something in Go was ugly, it later turned out that Go was well-designed and they simply didn’t understand the issues being designed around. This turned into a rough rule that seeing a problem with Go typically reflected a flaw in their own understanding, thus flaw with Go is actually best processed as flaw in own brain until proven otherwise.
I don’t know much about Go, but that’s not important. What is important is that I’m on my knees, arms outstretched, gazing up at the sky, tears streaming down my face, and begging to have one question answered:
Why does a practicing lawyer have more thoughts on programming than every CTO I’ve had a 1:1 with at a big company?
That guy could be me if I wrote more eloquently. I have been lucky in my career having had many good managers and even some great leaders in the companies I worked for. Even the not so great ones at least had some merit behind their thinking. The law of averages has caught up to me hard in my current situation where I work for an absolute moron and our departmental “leader” has no fucking idea what she is doing. She is exactly what this guy describes, overusing “leadership” and other buzzwords at every chance, but can’t describe in any useful detail what she wants us to build. If you ask her a simple question about her view on some task, she inevitably replies with “center of excellence”, like she just has to draw an org chart and it will happen. It’s become a meme among her direct reports.
My actual boss shouldn’t even be a manager at all let alone have achieved the level he did. In many large companies you see people who managed to survive past the entry level jobs and hang on for years because the process to have them let go is made so difficult by HR that people would rather pass them off on coworkers than do the paperwork. So they shift from job to job and end up in some corner that few people know exists doing something that has to be done but nobody else wants it. Also if it breaks, few will even notice for a while. The guy is super nice and sociable which the dumbass “leader” took for ability and unfortunately we have to live with him now. He hasn’t delivered on anything since he’s been here, but no signs that he is on the hot seat at all. I should have left a long time ago but unfortunately I have other stuff going on in my life that makes me kind of stuck.
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Guessing someone got fired over that.
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@Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
@Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
Because CTOs are selected for big org operations not developers. Whatever programming they had which likely wasn’t involved gets left behind on that techie management climb.
Yeah I thought something similar when I read it but it was still amusingly written I thought.
I really know nothing about the mid to upper management at the place I work. My direct supervisor and his boss are smart and are programmers/ex-programmers which is a huge help since it’s easy to explain issues to them when I need to. I maybe cross paths with someone in middle management once every few years and it’s usually when there’s 30 to 50 people on the call because something shat itself in production.
I’m also lucky I have two lower level managers (one IT, one in a business area) who go in to bat for me every 3 months when my contract comes up for renewal. This next renewal which just got approved apparently came with “an option to extend” which I assume means the mid level manager got tired of being harassed by those guys and I’ll get a renewal next time easily if there’s work (and there always is).
Don’t worry. We always have a very prestigious position available here for app development.
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It’s always available because you can’t find anyone who will work for Lithucoins?
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@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
It’s always available because you can’t find anyone who will work for Lithucoins?
Typical Democrat always lying.
PRESTIGIOUS POSITION. We don’t hand out LithuCoins™ to just anyone, nor provide sought after opportunities for the much awaited LOT 4.0.
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@Lithu said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:
It’s always available because you can’t find anyone who will work for Lithucoins?
Typical Democrat always lying.
PRESTIGIOUS POSITION. We don’t hand out LithuCoins™ to just anyone, nor provide sought after opportunities for the much awaited LOT 4.0.
The Rats need your kind of hucksterism, er thinking.
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Wasn’t going to say anything since it’s company business, but since 94% of all US healthcare has been impacted, I will tell you I am quite busy with this charming bit of hackery-
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Fucking with healthcare should be life prison terms. Even if they aren’t hacking machines that go beep and directly keep people alive, any disruptions and distractions is going to lead to avoidable deaths even if it’s just because people’s surgery was delayed.
The Malware So Tricky Even Programmers Fall For It
Change Healthcare - Wikipedia
