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    • Gators1G
      Gators1 @Pakoon
      last edited by Gators1

      @Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

      @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

      @Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

      @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

      Why would I want an overpriced commie computer?

      What do you mean by overpriced?

      More expensive than it’s worth. At least you understood the “commie computer” part.

      It isn’t really.

      It is. Stalin owned 5 of them! That’s part of the reason why the USSR was so poor.

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      • PakoonP
        Pakoon @Gators1
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        @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

        @Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

        @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

        @Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

        @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

        Why would I want an overpriced commie computer?

        What do you mean by overpriced?

        More expensive than it’s worth. At least you understood the “commie computer” part.

        It isn’t really.

        It is. Stalin owned 5 of them!

        I meant the expensive part. The commie shit is true!

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        • KilemallK
          Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @A Former User
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          @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

          Old blog I read years ago and just stumbled across again:

          Oct 13, 2017

          We fired our top talent. Best decision we ever made.

          We fired our top talent. Best decision we ever made.

          By Jonathan Solórzano-Hamilton “You will never be able to understand any of what I’ve created. I am Albert F*ing Einstein and you are all monkeys scrabbling in the dirt.” And so our resident genius, our Dr. Jekyll, explosively completed his transform...

          It’s a good read but I’m mostly linking for this line:

          “You will never be able to understand any of what I’ve created. I am Albert F***ing Einstein and you are all monkeys scrabbling in the dirt.”

          Fucking lol. I’d have given anything to have been in that meeting room when he dropped that.

          TLDR; they fired him and a follow up blog said they fired his manager too for allowing the situation to even develop.

          I am in guru situations. One guru strategy is he held onto key techs and parceled out bits, but did keep things ruthlessly simple and easy to maintain.

          The other guru I fight for simplifying and above all both customer knowledge and descriptive naming standards. I can fix or extend 95% anything he has done if I just know what it is when the customer refers to it.

          https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

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          • TazzT
            Tazz
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            GTFO

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            • Gators1G
              Gators1
              last edited by

              One great use for ChatGPT is having it write regular expressions for me. I don’t have to weep figuring that shit out anymore.

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              • KilemallK
                Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Gators1
                last edited by

                @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                One great use for ChatGPT is having it write regular expressions for me. I don’t have to weep figuring that shit out anymore.

                Good job Jetson.

                The Jetsons | Episode 10 | Polish your nail on your own time

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                • ?
                  A Former User
                  last edited by A Former User

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                  Working out how to write a regex that reliably does what you want can be painful. Reading and trying to decipher the fucking things months later is the real hell.

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                  • Gators1G
                    Gators1
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                    This should be in every programmer’s toolbox

                    GitHub - nvbn/thefuck: Magnificent app which corrects your previous console command.

                    GitHub - nvbn/thefuck: Magnificent app which corrects your previous console command.

                    Magnificent app which corrects your previous console command. - nvbn/thefuck

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                    • KilemallK
                      Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Gators1
                      last edited by

                      @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                      This should be in every programmer’s toolbox

                      GitHub - nvbn/thefuck: Magnificent app which corrects your previous console command.

                      GitHub - nvbn/thefuck: Magnificent app which corrects your previous console command.

                      Magnificent app which corrects your previous console command. - nvbn/thefuck

                      Jeezus, I dunno whether I want to bring this to the attention of the Unix admins or not.

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                      • JamJ
                        Jam
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                        I wonder whether ChatGPT can correct syntax errors in MySQL statements?

                        One may write statements that are 90% correct, but they don’t work due to one’s not being an expert and their being an overlooked syntax error. We’ve found that even when accessing Oracle MySQL support, the process involves “try this.” Next day when that did not work, “OK, now try this instead.”

                        I haven’t tried AI for for anything yet, personally. It’s about time to experiment a bit.

                        I was listening to a report the other day which discussed AI being trained to interpret MRI data and this does seem like a good use. Use of AI in the medical field seems to have been established for reading breast exam tomography, along with a clinician’s opinion, of course. AI has not been permitted to fly solo yet in the medical MRI/CT field for results interpretation. Perhaps Kyle has seen this in action?

                        "laissez les bons temps rouler!"

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                        • Gators1G
                          Gators1
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                          @Jam ChatGPT can both help you write the sql and help you fix it. If you give it the SQL and tell it “It gave me an ‘FU-666 - Your a dumbass’” error it can often tell you why. Or even if you tell it why the results are wrong it can help fix the logic. It’s often an iterative process though rather than just giving you the right answer at the beginning. Also Github copliot will help you write the code as you are first doing it in VSCODE. You can make a comment in your code and it can autogenerate the whole section or just start typing and it suggests what to type next for the rest of the line or whole SQL, function or whatever you are writing. Copilot has a chat option as well or you can highlight something and hit ctrl-i to get a box where you can tell it what to do contextually in your code.

                          I have had days where I was tired or braindead and just had the AI write the code and let me run and test it, then iterate until it’s right.

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                          • KilemallK
                            Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Jam
                            last edited by

                            @Jam said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                            I wonder whether ChatGPT can correct syntax errors in MySQL statements?

                            One may write statements that are 90% correct, but they don’t work due to one’s not being an expert and their being an overlooked syntax error. We’ve found that even when accessing Oracle MySQL support, the process involves “try this.” Next day when that did not work, “OK, now try this instead.”

                            I haven’t tried AI for for anything yet, personally. It’s about time to experiment a bit.

                            I was listening to a report the other day which discussed AI being trained to interpret MRI data and this does seem like a good use. Use of AI in the medical field seems to have been established for reading breast exam tomography, along with a clinician’s opinion, of course. AI has not been permitted to fly solo yet in the medical MRI/CT field for results interpretation. Perhaps Kyle has seen this in action?

                            I’m sure it is in active assessment but it’s not regular practice. I would expect the UT people are working it.

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                            • ?
                              A Former User
                              last edited by A Former User

                              I thought Linus Torvalds had mellowed in recent years but this is was just a week ago:

                              as a result your code IS GARBAGE. AGAIN.

                              lol.

                              Full text:


                              From Linus Torvalds <>
                              Date Fri, 26 Jan 2024 12:25:05 -0800
                              Subject Re: [PATCH] eventfs: Have inodes have unique inode numbers share

                              Steven,
                              stop making things more complicated than they need to be.

                              And dammit, STOP COPYING VFS LAYER FUNCTIONS.

                              It was a bad idea last time, it’s a horribly bad idea this time too.

                              I’m not taking this kind of crap.

                              The whole “get_next_ino()” should be “atomic64_add_return()”. End of story.

                              You arent’ special. If the VFS functions don’t work for you, you don’t
                              use them, but dammit, you also don’t then steal them without
                              understanding what they do, and why they were necessary.

                              The reason get_next_ino() is critical is because it’s used by things
                              like pipes and sockets etc that get created at high rates, the the
                              inode numbers most definitely do not get cached.

                              You copied that function without understanding why it does what it
                              does, and as a result your code IS GARBAGE.

                              AGAIN.

                              Honestly, kill this thing with fire. It was a bad idea. I’m putting my
                              foot down, and you are NOT doing unique regular file inode numbers
                              uintil somebody points to a real problem.

                              Because this whole “I make up problems, and then I write overly
                              complicated crap code to solve them” has to stop,.

                              No more. This stops here.

                              I don’t want to see a single eventfs patch that doesn’t have a real
                              bug report associated with it. And the next time I see you copying VFS
                              functions (or any other core functions) without udnerstanding what the
                              f*ck they do, and why they do it, I’m going to put you in my
                              spam-filter for a week.

                              I’m done. I’m really really tired of having to look at eventfs garbage.

                              Linus

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                              • ?
                                A Former User
                                last edited by A Former User

                                I don’t know if I’m getting wiser or have just lost the energy to fight it (either way, I’m getting old) but re this comment he made:

                                Because this whole “I make up problems, and then I write overly complicated crap code to solve them” has to stop,.

                                I wouldn’t waste any energy on getting angry about that because it’s probably not in the guy’s nature to recognize he’s even doing it. Some people just do that - overcomplicate the fuck out of everything - and they couldn’t recognize the beauty in simplicity if it hit them in the head. Or they just don’t have the talent to see the real problem and they just keep furiously writing more and more code on top of failed approaches praying that the last fix on their fixes does the trick. I don’t know if you can change that either.

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                                • Gators1G
                                  Gators1
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                                  I didn’t understand any of that but still, fuck that guy!

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                                  • tiggerT
                                    tigger @A Former User
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                                    @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                    I don’t know if I’m getting wiser or have just lost the energy to fight it (either way, I’m getting old) but re this comment he made:

                                    Because this whole “I make up problems, and then I write overly complicated crap code to solve them” has to stop,.

                                    I wouldn’t waste any energy on getting angry about that because it’s probably not in the guy’s nature to recognize he’s even doing it. Some people just do that - overcomplicate the fuck out of everything - and they couldn’t recognize the beauty in simplicity if it hit them in the head. Or they just don’t have the talent to see the real problem and they just keep furiously writing more and more code on top of failed approaches praying that the last fix on their fixes does the trick. I don’t know if you can change that either.

                                    The two patterns I recognize in this direction are:

                                    • Require indirection everywhere. Solve a problem by writing a universal class that solves all possible problems and specializing it for the actual problem at hand. It may work, but you will never use it for something else, you shouldn’t use it for something else, and the next person that comes along will have no idea what the hell it does in the first place.

                                    • Think the problem is very simple. Write a logically wrong solution. Poke that solution with a stick until it is 7 times as long as you anticipated, calls itself recursively, and uses 3 external libraries someone on stack overflow has told you about. The right solution was to scrap it, doodle a bit on paper, and write completely new, short, and correct code.

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                                    • PakoonP
                                      Pakoon
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                                      Linus and Steve should try solving this in a cage fight.

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User @Pakoon
                                        last edited by

                                        @Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                        Linus and Steve should try solving this in a cage fight.

                                        lol, no joke, this is Steve:

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                                        Source

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                                        • KilemallK
                                          Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @A Former User
                                          last edited by

                                          @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                          @Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                          Linus and Steve should try solving this in a cage fight.

                                          lol, no joke, this is Steve:

                                          4a74589c-f5af-49b5-80cc-6927ed90215e-image.png

                                          Source

                                          Hmm in code fu likely Linus wins, but not actually fighting. Unless the penguins mass for him.

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                                          • PakoonP
                                            Pakoon
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                                            Linus’s wife was a black belt karate instructor, maybe she has taught Linus some tricks.

                                            I attended a few of her lessons when I was 14 or something.

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