The OFFICIAL programming thread

Gators1

@Hog I am saving that one. I would actually love to have a Rick around TBH because I am surrounded by dumbasses that can’t work independently or collaborate.

Pakoon

I’d like to be Rick.

Pakoon

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

Why would I want an overpriced commie computer?

What do you mean by overpriced?

Gators1

@Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

Why would I want an overpriced commie computer?

What do you mean by overpriced?

More expensive than it’s worth. At least you understood the “commie computer” part.

Pakoon

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

@Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

Why would I want an overpriced commie computer?

What do you mean by overpriced?

More expensive than it’s worth. At least you understood the “commie computer” part.

It isn’t really.

Gators1

@Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

@Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

Why would I want an overpriced commie computer?

What do you mean by overpriced?

More expensive than it’s worth. At least you understood the “commie computer” part.

It isn’t really.

It is. Stalin owned 5 of them! That’s part of the reason why the USSR was so poor.

Pakoon

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

@Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

@Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

Why would I want an overpriced commie computer?

What do you mean by overpriced?

More expensive than it’s worth. At least you understood the “commie computer” part.

It isn’t really.

It is. Stalin owned 5 of them!

I meant the expensive part. The commie shit is true!

Kilemall

@Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

Old blog I read years ago and just stumbled across again:

Oct 13, 2017

We fired our top talent. Best decision we ever made.

By Jonathan Solórzano-Hamilton “You will never be able to understand any of what I’ve created. I am Albert F*ing Einstein and you are all monkeys scrabbling in the dirt.” And so our resident genius, our Dr. Jekyll, explosively completed his transform...

It’s a good read but I’m mostly linking for this line:

“You will never be able to understand any of what I’ve created. I am Albert F***ing Einstein and you are all monkeys scrabbling in the dirt.”

Fucking lol. I’d have given anything to have been in that meeting room when he dropped that.

TLDR; they fired him and a follow up blog said they fired his manager too for allowing the situation to even develop.

I am in guru situations. One guru strategy is he held onto key techs and parceled out bits, but did keep things ruthlessly simple and easy to maintain.

The other guru I fight for simplifying and above all both customer knowledge and descriptive naming standards. I can fix or extend 95% anything he has done if I just know what it is when the customer refers to it.

Tazz

Gators1

One great use for ChatGPT is having it write regular expressions for me. I don’t have to weep figuring that shit out anymore.

Kilemall

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

One great use for ChatGPT is having it write regular expressions for me. I don’t have to weep figuring that shit out anymore.

Good job Jetson.

The Jetsons | Episode 10 | Polish your nail on your own time

Working out how to write a regex that reliably does what you want can be painful. Reading and trying to decipher the fucking things months later is the real hell.

Gators1

This should be in every programmer’s toolbox

GitHub - nvbn/thefuck: Magnificent app which corrects your previous console command.

Magnificent app which corrects your previous console command. - nvbn/thefuck

Kilemall

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

This should be in every programmer’s toolbox

GitHub - nvbn/thefuck: Magnificent app which corrects your previous console command.

Magnificent app which corrects your previous console command. - nvbn/thefuck

Jeezus, I dunno whether I want to bring this to the attention of the Unix admins or not.

Jam

I wonder whether ChatGPT can correct syntax errors in MySQL statements?

One may write statements that are 90% correct, but they don’t work due to one’s not being an expert and their being an overlooked syntax error. We’ve found that even when accessing Oracle MySQL support, the process involves “try this.” Next day when that did not work, “OK, now try this instead.”

I haven’t tried AI for for anything yet, personally. It’s about time to experiment a bit.

I was listening to a report the other day which discussed AI being trained to interpret MRI data and this does seem like a good use. Use of AI in the medical field seems to have been established for reading breast exam tomography, along with a clinician’s opinion, of course. AI has not been permitted to fly solo yet in the medical MRI/CT field for results interpretation. Perhaps Kyle has seen this in action?

Gators1

@Jam ChatGPT can both help you write the sql and help you fix it. If you give it the SQL and tell it “It gave me an ‘FU-666 - Your a dumbass’” error it can often tell you why. Or even if you tell it why the results are wrong it can help fix the logic. It’s often an iterative process though rather than just giving you the right answer at the beginning. Also Github copliot will help you write the code as you are first doing it in VSCODE. You can make a comment in your code and it can autogenerate the whole section or just start typing and it suggests what to type next for the rest of the line or whole SQL, function or whatever you are writing. Copilot has a chat option as well or you can highlight something and hit ctrl-i to get a box where you can tell it what to do contextually in your code.

I have had days where I was tired or braindead and just had the AI write the code and let me run and test it, then iterate until it’s right.

Kilemall

@Jam said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

I wonder whether ChatGPT can correct syntax errors in MySQL statements?

One may write statements that are 90% correct, but they don’t work due to one’s not being an expert and their being an overlooked syntax error. We’ve found that even when accessing Oracle MySQL support, the process involves “try this.” Next day when that did not work, “OK, now try this instead.”

I haven’t tried AI for for anything yet, personally. It’s about time to experiment a bit.

I was listening to a report the other day which discussed AI being trained to interpret MRI data and this does seem like a good use. Use of AI in the medical field seems to have been established for reading breast exam tomography, along with a clinician’s opinion, of course. AI has not been permitted to fly solo yet in the medical MRI/CT field for results interpretation. Perhaps Kyle has seen this in action?

I’m sure it is in active assessment but it’s not regular practice. I would expect the UT people are working it.

I thought Linus Torvalds had mellowed in recent years but this is was just a week ago:

as a result your code IS GARBAGE. AGAIN.

lol.

Full text:

From Linus Torvalds <>
Date Fri, 26 Jan 2024 12:25:05 -0800
Subject Re: [PATCH] eventfs: Have inodes have unique inode numbers share

Steven,
stop making things more complicated than they need to be.

And dammit, STOP COPYING VFS LAYER FUNCTIONS.

It was a bad idea last time, it’s a horribly bad idea this time too.

I’m not taking this kind of crap.

The whole “get_next_ino()” should be “atomic64_add_return()”. End of story.

You arent’ special. If the VFS functions don’t work for you, you don’t
use them, but dammit, you also don’t then steal them without
understanding what they do, and why they were necessary.

The reason get_next_ino() is critical is because it’s used by things
like pipes and sockets etc that get created at high rates, the the
inode numbers most definitely do not get cached.

You copied that function without understanding why it does what it
does, and as a result your code IS GARBAGE.

AGAIN.

Honestly, kill this thing with fire. It was a bad idea. I’m putting my
foot down, and you are NOT doing unique regular file inode numbers
uintil somebody points to a real problem.

Because this whole “I make up problems, and then I write overly
complicated crap code to solve them” has to stop,.

No more. This stops here.

I don’t want to see a single eventfs patch that doesn’t have a real
bug report associated with it. And the next time I see you copying VFS
functions (or any other core functions) without udnerstanding what the
f*ck they do, and why they do it, I’m going to put you in my
spam-filter for a week.

I’m done. I’m really really tired of having to look at eventfs garbage.

Linus

I don’t know if I’m getting wiser or have just lost the energy to fight it (either way, I’m getting old) but re this comment he made:

Because this whole “I make up problems, and then I write overly complicated crap code to solve them” has to stop,.

I wouldn’t waste any energy on getting angry about that because it’s probably not in the guy’s nature to recognize he’s even doing it. Some people just do that - overcomplicate the fuck out of everything - and they couldn’t recognize the beauty in simplicity if it hit them in the head. Or they just don’t have the talent to see the real problem and they just keep furiously writing more and more code on top of failed approaches praying that the last fix on their fixes does the trick. I don’t know if you can change that either.

Gators1

I didn’t understand any of that but still, fuck that guy!