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    • KilemallK
      Kilemall Careful, railroad agent
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      Wordpad is lethal for the invisible coding that sneaks in. Notepad all the way for plain text.

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      Never go full Lithu-
      Twain

      No editing is gonna save you now-
      Wingmann

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      • ?
        A Former User
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        Urgh. I shouldn’t talk to people today. A dev that was brought in to assist me is breaking shit that was working weeks ago. Regressions happen but when I pointed out that four values entered in the Create form were no longer being persisted, I was told the user could correct them in the Change form (i.e., enter the data again). Wtf? The below was my calm response to that but I don’t know how long I can keep feigning sanity.

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        • ?
          A Former User
          last edited by A Former User

          Developers React to Unity Price Changes

          Unity really shit the bed.

          Edit: article:

          msn.com: Game developers are furious about Unity’s new installation-based fees

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          • Gators1G
            Gators1 @A Former User
            last edited by

            @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

            Urgh. I shouldn’t talk to people today. A dev that was brought in to assist me is breaking shit that was working weeks ago. Regressions happen but when I pointed out that four values entered in the Create form were no longer being persisted, I was told the user could correct them in the Change form (i.e., enter the data again). Wtf? The below was my calm response to that but I don’t know how long I can keep feigning sanity.

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            Sounds like your client is my company.

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            • ?
              A Former User @A Former User
              last edited by A Former User

              @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

              Developers React to Unity Price Changes

              Unity really shit the bed.

              Edit: article:

              msn.com: Game developers are furious about Unity’s new installation-based fees

              It’s hard to overstate how much of misstep this is. It’s not just a “price change” as the above video stupidly calls it in the title, they’re effectively retroactively changing the license and charging a fee for something the game devs and publishers have no way of recovering. And that’s really just scratching the surface of it. Despite the bad title, the above vid explains the depths of it pretty well.

              Or you can scroll through the Twitter handle @fuckedbyunity and you can see the universal condemnation for the move by game devs and publishers:

              FuckedByUnity

              I understand Unity were already on the verge of bankruptcy and they definitely won’t recover from this. It will take months for devs to switch game engines and that will only be for new releases so it won’t happen overnight but Unity well and truly fucked themselves with this breach of trust. They’ve made Hasbro/WotC look like beloved and benevolent stewards of their customer’s best interests by comparison.

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              • ?
                A Former User
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                Game maker’s toolkit is a pretty influential voice in the indie games scene (1.5 million YT subs). Loved this quote:

                Basically: I’ve never been so embarrassed to use a piece of software and I have an Adobe CC license for god’s sake.

                https://x.com/gamemakerstk/status/1702563835310211120?s=20
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                • ?
                  A Former User
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                  • tiggerT
                    tigger
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                    I assumed the Unity business must be going well… Apparently not. What was wrong with the decades old approach to try to make more money by starting a social network of your users?

                    I mean except that it never worked, but that isn’t the point, you can get promoted by making stuff even if it doesn’t work. What’s a better CV element for a director than saying “I’ve increased the user count of company X’s product by 1000x?” without specifying that it was from 1 (you) to 1000 (company employees and a few lost bots).

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                      Blanks
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                      Unity done pissed off everyone it seems. Most people I know are working in Unreal anyway, or some proprietary engine.

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                      • ?
                        A Former User
                        last edited by A Former User

                        Well, there’s one silver lining: even if only 5% of the dev studios who are discontented enough to move to another game engine end up on Godot, that’s going to be great for Godot. And I suspect it may even be higher than 5% from what I’m reading.

                        Can’t fuck people over with MIT licensed software that can be used however you want, modified to do anything you want and the project even forked away from if necessary.

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                        • KilemallK
                          Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @A Former User
                          last edited by

                          @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                          Well, there’s one silver lining: even if only 5% of the dev studios who are discontented enough to move to another game engine end up on Godot, that’s going to be great for Godot. And I suspect it may even be higher than 5% from what I’m reading.

                          Can’t fuck people over with MIT licensed software that can be used however you want, modified to do anything you want and the project even forked away from if necessary.

                          Fork you!

                          https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                          Never go full Lithu-
                          Twain

                          No editing is gonna save you now-
                          Wingmann

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                          • Gators1G
                            Gators1
                            last edited by

                            Programmers copy/paste from Stack Overflow!

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                            • ?
                              A Former User
                              last edited by A Former User

                              I seem to be arriving on SO a lot less these days. I heard that a change Google search made a while back ~demoted them in search results~ resulted in them getting less traffic but I use DuckDuckGo so I dunno. That whole place is insufferable anyway with self important vandal moderators.

                              I’m kind of disillusioned with just about everything on the internet these days. It seems we’re in an era of suck that is much harder to take since we had a taste of how it could be better.

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                              • Gators1G
                                Gators1 @A Former User
                                last edited by

                                @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                I seem to be arriving on SO a lot less these days. I heard that a change Google search made a while back ~demoted them in search results~ resulted in them getting less traffic but I use DuckDuckGo so I dunno. That whole place is insufferable anyway with self important vandal moderators.

                                I’m kind of disillusioned with just about everything on the internet these days. It seems we’re in an era of suck that is much harder to take since we had a taste of how it could be better.

                                I don’t engage in the community or whatever, I just google my problem and click the SO result because it’s usually better than some random blog. I can quickly scan the OP to make sure the problem is the same and the answer is checkmarked and boosted right below. I heard it was toxic or whatever, but don’t really care as long as I get what I need.

                                Agree that consolidation was bad in terms of entertainment purposes where big tech owns most of the traffic and gets pressure to culturally whitewash their content. Youtube is the one that pisses me off the most, but still find it useful. I think if they ever drop long form videos and go full Ticktok though I am done with the internet.

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by A Former User

                                  This stuff is getting so meta:

                                  WebAssembly started as a “JavaScript alternative for browsers”. The idea is to safely run high-performance applications compiled from languages like C/C++ or Rust in browsers. In the browser, WebAssembly runs side by side with JavaScript.

                                  As WebAssembly is increasingly used in the cloud, it is now a universal runtime for cloud-native applications. Compared with Linux containers, WebAssembly runtimes achieve higher performance with lower resource consumption.

                                  In cloud-native use cases, developers often want to use JavaScript to write business applications. That means we must now support JavaScript in WebAssembly. Furthermore, we should support calling C/C++ or Rust functions from JavaScript in a WebAssembly runtime to maximize WebAssembly’s computational efficiency. The WasmEdge WebAssembly runtime allows you to do exactly that.

                                  JavaScript as the only browser language was too slow for some usecases and not as flexible as supporting multiple languages. They created webassembly to address the speed issue and open the door for having just about any language compile down to WASM and run in the browser. Now WASM has become the language (or target) of choice for cloud computing but JavaScript has a bunch of mind share and it great for scripting and certain use cases. So they created a JavaScript interpreter in WASM.

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User
                                    last edited by A Former User

                                    I’ve recently been kicking tires on the current best way to do something for a personal app and I was evaluating JavaScript runtimes. It’s been a couple of years since I’ve looked at this topic and, damn, the world moves on quickly.

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                                    Edit: the above is a meme so it’s necessarily limited. Zig is still beta and has some issues I don’t know if they can solve nicely around async. A more accurate statement would be “a more attractive language than Rust to me”.

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User
                                      last edited by

                                      I just went looking for info on using Unix Domain Sockets (UDS) in Rust and this was about half way down the first page of search results:

                                      Rust in UDS?

                                      For a brief moment I felt an extra kinship with Tazz.

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                                      • TazzT
                                        Tazz @A Former User
                                        last edited by

                                        @Hog Haha. That’s good. Ever since I cleaned all that crap out of my smoker the results are 1000% better without any bitter taste. Never has rust but I keep it dry and out of the rain.

                                        GTFO

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                                        • ?
                                          A Former User @A Former User
                                          last edited by A Former User

                                          @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                          Shaders are a pain the arse to debug. Can’t set breakpoints; can’t print debugging values. You have to set a pixel to a color representing a value and and hope you can find it in the output.

                                          It’s now 2023 anno Domini and I can’t believe the above is still a thing. I’m getting better at it but, oh boy. Little bugs that would take you seconds to find in any modern debugger sometimes take hours to resolve.

                                          I mean, I get why it’s hard to build a debugger for code that runs massively parallel on a GPU up to millions of times per frame but, still, there must be smarter people than me who can work out how to make one.

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                                          • Gators1G
                                            Gators1
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                                            I need to stop habitually answering questions on Reddit and wasting time. I read one this morning where the dude is like “I don’t understand X” about data warehouse architecture. It was a very basic question and should have been answered sufficiently by the source book he said he read. So I type out some examples of why it is the way it is and I am about to hit reply when I notice I am replying to a guy named TheCumCopter. Yeah, he is never going to get it and I just wasted 4 minutes.

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