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    • ?
      A Former User
      last edited by A Former User

      Yeah I watched that and found the results she cited from studies matched my experience. Problem is that the studies she cited are all based on current or last generation LLMs so I think it’s too early to call it dead as a replacement for us. I’m just hoping I can do my job for at least 5 more years, 10 would be better, so I can reach some goals that I probably couldn’t doing other work.

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      • tiggerT
        tigger
        last edited by

        I think, and I suppose I’m kind of qualified to speak on the subject, that the big change LLMs and other associated ML (two tower models, distilled LLMs, etc) brought us isn’t in replacing programmers. It’s in making problems formerly intractable for small companies tractable for small companies.

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        • tiggerT
          tigger
          last edited by

          And the question of how big the AI hype should be isn’t “how far till AGI”, but “are there well monetizable products which haven’t been made yet”.

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          • GustafG
            Gustaf
            last edited by

            The real question is, “How long until ultra realistic bisexual female sex robots are affordable?”

            "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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            • ?
              A Former User
              last edited by A Former User

              “More than a quarter of all new code at Google is generated by AI, then reviewed and accepted by engineers,” CEO Sundar Pichai said on the company’s third quarter 2024 earnings call.

              Jay Peters  /  Oct 29, 2024  /  google

              More than a quarter of new code at Google is generated by AI

              More than a quarter of new code at Google is generated by AI

              The company had a strong quarter thanks in large part to AI.

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              • Gators1G
                Gators1
                last edited by

                No wonder searches suck anymore.

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                • tiggerT
                  tigger
                  last edited by

                  If you write
                  “if (Doe”
                  and you get an AI™ auto complete to:
                  “if (DoesCamelCaseCamelHaveManyHumps) {”
                  80% of your code as been written by AI.

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                  • rote7R
                    rote7 @tigger
                    last edited by

                    @tigger said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                    If you write
                    “if (Doe”
                    and you get an AI™ auto complete to:
                    “if (DoesCamelCaseCamelHaveManyHumps) {”
                    80% of your code as been written by AI.

                    I prefer doesCamelCaseCamelHaveManyHumps. Makes it easier to read and pleases the eye.

                    As for does_camel_case_camel_have_many_humps, that clearly is a waste of screen estate and storage space.

                    Also, spaces > tabs.

                    fffg

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
                      last edited by A Former User

                      FFS:

                      image.png

                      I’ve been creating code around JWT tokens since maybe 2016 and I’ve never once heard that it was pronounced “jot”. Who are the terrorists that keep naming shit like this?

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                      • GustafG
                        Gustaf
                        last edited by

                        They should be called JRR

                        "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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                        • KilemallK
                          Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @A Former User
                          last edited by Kilemall

                          @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                          FFS:

                          image.png

                          I’ve been creating code around JWT tokens since maybe 2016 and I’ve never once heard that it was pronounced “jot”. Who are the terrorists that keep naming shit like this?

                          CICS, a major IBM user package from way back, is normally pronounced by saying the acronym letters, but the old school guys say kicks.

                          Be prepared to read up on a living dinosaur or shark from ancient times still out there. Wiki even has the pronunciation entry.

                          CICS - Wikipedia

                          CICS - Wikipedia

                          https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

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                          Twain

                          No editing is gonna save you now-
                          Wingmann

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                          • PakoonP
                            Pakoon
                            last edited by

                            Do the old-school guys get their CICS on router sixty-six?

                            ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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                            • KilemallK
                              Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Pakoon
                              last edited by Kilemall

                              @Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                              Do the old-school guys get their CICS on router sixty-six?

                              Yes. Although talking to routers is more a VTAM/Telnet server- TCPIP running under an onboard UNIX VM thing.

                              Ya VTAM thinks it’s 1983 with proprietary IBM datacomm and they just basically made an onboard UNIX server and ported in all the UNIX stuff. I call it fooling grandpa.

                              Virtual Telecommunications Access Method - Wikipedia

                              https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                              Never go full Lithu-
                              Twain

                              No editing is gonna save you now-
                              Wingmann

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                              • GustafG
                                Gustaf
                                last edited by

                                It’s good we keep the nerdiness combined to this thread so it doesn’t infect the others.

                                "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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                                • KilemallK
                                  Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Gustaf
                                  last edited by

                                  @Gustaf said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                  It’s good we keep the nerdiness combined to this thread so it doesn’t infect the others.

                                  Say that’s wrong. Thanks Gustaf, it’s like you’re ringing the dinner bell for all those delicious threads to nerdify!!!

                                  https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                                  Never go full Lithu-
                                  Twain

                                  No editing is gonna save you now-
                                  Wingmann

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                                  • GustafG
                                    Gustaf
                                    last edited by

                                    Thank god I’m here to hip this place up.

                                    "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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                                    • JamJ
                                      Jam @Gustaf
                                      last edited by Jam

                                      @Gustaf said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                      Thank god I’m here to hip this place up.

                                      I think you mistakenly hit the “h” key instead of the “t” and the “r” which are diagonally just above and to your left on your keyboard.

                                      Be a bit more careful in future please, or you’ll end up editing as often as i do!

                                      "laissez les bons temps rouler!"

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User
                                        last edited by

                                        image.png

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                                        • KilemallK
                                          Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @A Former User
                                          last edited by

                                          @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                          image.png

                                          I love kill commands. I really do.

                                          https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                                          Never go full Lithu-
                                          Twain

                                          No editing is gonna save you now-
                                          Wingmann

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                                          • ?
                                            A Former User @Kilemall
                                            last edited by A Former User

                                            @Kilemall I’m guessing you’ve got a script called killemall that does what its name says.

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