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    • O
      oyaji
      last edited by oyaji

      heh, i don’t use any services, neither google, ms, nor any others. i don’t even know what “services” are.

      i don’t even use email.

      i do nothing financial online.

      i do use firefox, mainly just for weather reports and browsing here at LOT, and a little “shopping”-browsing for farm-related products, and rarely any other odds and ends. on public wifi i hit youtube when i have time, once or twice every 2 weeks.

      and i am still wanting to protect my privacy from those fcuking fcukers.

      © 2015 - 2025 oyaji

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      • tiggerT
        tigger @A Former User
        last edited by

        @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

        I don’t blame lithu for this, it’s coming from a dozen places and this website is no different to any other but:

        I just logged into OT with a browser I never use for this website and only scrolled through the last 10 pages of this thread. UBlock has blocked 119 third-party cookies, the overwhelming majority of which exist purely to track you across multiple websites and then onsell the data about your browsing habits.

        image.png

        Now I could use something like UBlock in every browser but it’s way too aggressive given I want to support advertising and the like.

        These would have to be from the content preview windows… I suppose the content preview cannot be done server side easily, the webpages will realize it’s a bot and you’d need to keep fighting that.

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        • JamJ
          Jam @Gators1
          last edited by

          @Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

          The enemy of my enemy is…

          Just another one of many enemies?

          "laissez les bons temps rouler!"

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          • Gators1G
            Gators1
            last edited by

            So I guess we aren’t losing our jobs?

            I Didn’t Believe that AI is the Future of Coding. I Was Right.

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            • ?
              A Former User
              last edited by A Former User

              Yeah I watched that and found the results she cited from studies matched my experience. Problem is that the studies she cited are all based on current or last generation LLMs so I think it’s too early to call it dead as a replacement for us. I’m just hoping I can do my job for at least 5 more years, 10 would be better, so I can reach some goals that I probably couldn’t doing other work.

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              • tiggerT
                tigger
                last edited by

                I think, and I suppose I’m kind of qualified to speak on the subject, that the big change LLMs and other associated ML (two tower models, distilled LLMs, etc) brought us isn’t in replacing programmers. It’s in making problems formerly intractable for small companies tractable for small companies.

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                • tiggerT
                  tigger
                  last edited by

                  And the question of how big the AI hype should be isn’t “how far till AGI”, but “are there well monetizable products which haven’t been made yet”.

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                  • GustafG
                    Gustaf
                    last edited by

                    The real question is, “How long until ultra realistic bisexual female sex robots are affordable?”

                    "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
                      last edited by A Former User

                      “More than a quarter of all new code at Google is generated by AI, then reviewed and accepted by engineers,” CEO Sundar Pichai said on the company’s third quarter 2024 earnings call.

                      Jay Peters  /  Oct 29, 2024  /  google

                      More than a quarter of new code at Google is generated by AI

                      More than a quarter of new code at Google is generated by AI

                      The company had a strong quarter thanks in large part to AI.

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                      • Gators1G
                        Gators1
                        last edited by

                        No wonder searches suck anymore.

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                        • tiggerT
                          tigger
                          last edited by

                          If you write
                          “if (Doe”
                          and you get an AI™ auto complete to:
                          “if (DoesCamelCaseCamelHaveManyHumps) {”
                          80% of your code as been written by AI.

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                          • rote7R
                            rote7 @tigger
                            last edited by

                            @tigger said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                            If you write
                            “if (Doe”
                            and you get an AI™ auto complete to:
                            “if (DoesCamelCaseCamelHaveManyHumps) {”
                            80% of your code as been written by AI.

                            I prefer doesCamelCaseCamelHaveManyHumps. Makes it easier to read and pleases the eye.

                            As for does_camel_case_camel_have_many_humps, that clearly is a waste of screen estate and storage space.

                            Also, spaces > tabs.

                            fffg

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                            • ?
                              A Former User
                              last edited by A Former User

                              FFS:

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                              I’ve been creating code around JWT tokens since maybe 2016 and I’ve never once heard that it was pronounced “jot”. Who are the terrorists that keep naming shit like this?

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                              • GustafG
                                Gustaf
                                last edited by

                                They should be called JRR

                                "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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                                • KilemallK
                                  Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @A Former User
                                  last edited by Kilemall

                                  @Hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                  FFS:

                                  image.png

                                  I’ve been creating code around JWT tokens since maybe 2016 and I’ve never once heard that it was pronounced “jot”. Who are the terrorists that keep naming shit like this?

                                  CICS, a major IBM user package from way back, is normally pronounced by saying the acronym letters, but the old school guys say kicks.

                                  Be prepared to read up on a living dinosaur or shark from ancient times still out there. Wiki even has the pronunciation entry.

                                  CICS - Wikipedia

                                  CICS - Wikipedia

                                  https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                                  Never go full Lithu-
                                  Twain

                                  No editing is gonna save you now-
                                  Wingmann

                                  http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

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                                  • PakoonP
                                    Pakoon
                                    last edited by

                                    Do the old-school guys get their CICS on router sixty-six?

                                    ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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                                    • KilemallK
                                      Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Pakoon
                                      last edited by Kilemall

                                      @Pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                      Do the old-school guys get their CICS on router sixty-six?

                                      Yes. Although talking to routers is more a VTAM/Telnet server- TCPIP running under an onboard UNIX VM thing.

                                      Ya VTAM thinks it’s 1983 with proprietary IBM datacomm and they just basically made an onboard UNIX server and ported in all the UNIX stuff. I call it fooling grandpa.

                                      Virtual Telecommunications Access Method - Wikipedia

                                      https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                                      Never go full Lithu-
                                      Twain

                                      No editing is gonna save you now-
                                      Wingmann

                                      http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

                                      http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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                                      • GustafG
                                        Gustaf
                                        last edited by

                                        It’s good we keep the nerdiness combined to this thread so it doesn’t infect the others.

                                        "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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                                        • KilemallK
                                          Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Gustaf
                                          last edited by

                                          @Gustaf said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                          It’s good we keep the nerdiness combined to this thread so it doesn’t infect the others.

                                          Say that’s wrong. Thanks Gustaf, it’s like you’re ringing the dinner bell for all those delicious threads to nerdify!!!

                                          https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                                          Never go full Lithu-
                                          Twain

                                          No editing is gonna save you now-
                                          Wingmann

                                          http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

                                          http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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                                          • GustafG
                                            Gustaf
                                            last edited by

                                            Thank god I’m here to hip this place up.

                                            "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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