The OFFICIAL programming thread

@Kilemall said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

Jeff’s Rules, born of programming but applicable elsewhere.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BisKet4vvF_7zyH5OcfFDhP4WQdEVVt8YYzBytgdQ-o/mobilebasic

This guy is clearly American healthcare IT judging from the very thorough anti-Cerner rant halfway through. I really don’t like Cerner, so much so that I didn’t take the path of taking a job there cause of their suck. Would have been better family wise, but ewwwww.

Apparently, Orwell never said it but, damn, this is a good line:

“There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them.” -George Orwell

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

Shit, now I gotta use Edge. Bing AI is available to everyone based on ChatGPT. It also returns links related to the answer.

I use edge and bing all the time for work and they opted me to the beta or whatever it was the week after they announced it (a month or two ago). I tried it briefly but it irritated me.

First, I’m used to seeing search results just instantly appear when I enter a query. Waiting for the AI to respond felt like an eternity.
Second, it was buggy af. I couldn’t get to the AI part 8 times out of 10.
Third, they actually made my browser chime whenever I did a bing search to remind me to use AI. Don’t play a sound in my browser unless I specifically ask you to ya cunts. I almost switched search engines.

Maybe I’m just old and set in my ways. I probably should try it again.

Gators1

I subbed to the openai one because I find it useful. Saves me a lot of googling and trying to figure out what illiterate assholes are talking about. Trying to learn some aws shit now and it can walk me through step by step rather than me difficult through the billion pages on the site for an example. It gets it wrong sometimes but usually I just tell it “it gave me an error dumbass” and it apologizes and we work it out in a few tries. Also have not tried it but I guess it can write my essays for me saving me a lot of time on this forum. Might not work though because its woke from what I hear.

Kilemall

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

I subbed to the openai one because I find it useful. Saves me a lot of googling and trying to figure out what illiterate assholes are talking about. Trying to learn some aws shit now and it can walk me through step by step rather than me difficult through the billion pages on the site for an example. It gets it wrong sometimes but usually I just tell it “it gave me an error dumbass” and it apologizes and we work it out in a few tries. Also have not tried it but I guess it can write my essays for me saving me a lot of time on this forum. Might not work though because its woke from what I hear.

It’s already ratting you out to the wokelords.

Tazz

I have no idea what this is about but I still think it’s funny

Gators1

This is interesting. Dude is predicting we will program in some kind of pseudocode in the future and AI will write the code, test it, etc. You can even prototype code in different languages to see which is most efficient. Still a ways off because people write more efficient code, but probably not like a decade the way AI is progressing.

Masterclass: AI-driven Development for Programmers

Tazz

@Gators1 Will it delete the hard drive?

Or delete the web link to this forum?

Tazz

I could do that without their help.

Kilemall

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

This is interesting. Dude is predicting we will program in some kind of pseudocode in the future and AI will write the code, test it, etc. You can even prototype code in different languages to see which is most efficient. Still a ways off because people write more efficient code, but probably not like a decade the way AI is progressing.

Masterclass: AI-driven Development for Programmers

I always figured Spock was using some kind of precise syntax to frame his computer queries and commands.

Gators1

Brainf**k in 100 Seconds

Kilemall

@Gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

Brainf**k in 100 Seconds

If the world was functional, Amiga would have won.

Gators1

America wasn’t ready for a computer named after illegal immigrant gibberish.

rote7

The damn swiss made me doubt myself for at least a week, to varying degrees.

To eliminate duplicates and speed up address searches I have added an indexed MD5 checksum column to the address table.

On insert and update triggers build the seed for this checksum by concatenating zipcode, city, district, street, number, building part. Then spaces, newlines and tabs are removed. Finally the result gets converted to UPPERCASE, fed to MD5 and placed into the chksum field,

In order to avoid a roundtrip to the DB for checksum calculation when doing searches I added a function to our repository that does exactly the same. Problem was that the results were not identical.

Long story short, it’s the Swiss’ fault.

Unicode standard eleventy states:

00DF ß LATIN SMALL LETTER 
   SHARP S     
   = Eszett
   - German 
   - uppercase is "SS"
   - nonstandard uppercase is 1E9E ẞ 

1E9E ẞ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S 
   - lowercase is 00DF ß

Unicode standard twelventy states:

00DF ß LATIN SMALL LETTER 
   SHARP S 
   = Eszett
   - German
   - **not used in Swiss High German**    
   - uppercase is "SS" or 1E9E ẞ 1E9E ẞ 

LATIN CAPITAL LETTER
    SHARP S 
  - **not used in Swiss High German**
  - lowercase is 00DF ß

Turns out MySQL is the only kid in town who uses the nonstandard uppercase 1E9E ẞ.

Solution: Changed the conversion to lowercase in the mysql, triggers, ran a quick table update and all is fine now.

My question: Why do the Swiss abhor the uppercase ß?

tigger

The what??

Whoofe

i dont like it when a German starts talking about SS

Pakoon

Uffe shouldn’t have sold MySql to Oracle.

rote7

@Whoofe said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

i dont like it when a German starts talking about SS

Hey, during the last world championship the world discussed about German politicians with armbands. We are way past this.

Gators1

@rote7 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

@Whoofe said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

i dont like it when a German starts talking about SS

Hey, during the last world championship the world discussed about German politicians with armbands. We are way past this.

We never get past anything here.

Kilemall

@rote7 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

The damn swiss made me doubt myself for at least a week, to varying degrees.

To eliminate duplicates and speed up address searches I have added an indexed MD5 checksum column to the address table.

On insert and update triggers build the seed for this checksum by concatenating zipcode, city, district, street, number, building part. Then spaces, newlines and tabs are removed. Finally the result gets converted to UPPERCASE, fed to MD5 and placed into the chksum field,

In order to avoid a roundtrip to the DB for checksum calculation when doing searches I added a function to our repository that does exactly the same. Problem was that the results were not identical.

Long story short, it’s the Swiss’ fault.

Unicode standard eleventy states:
00DF ß LATIN SMALL LETTER 
   SHARP S     
   = Eszett
   - German 
   - uppercase is "SS"
   - nonstandard uppercase is 1E9E ẞ 

1E9E ẞ LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S 
   - lowercase is 00DF ß
Unicode standard twelventy states:
00DF ß LATIN SMALL LETTER 
   SHARP S 
   = Eszett
   - German
   - **not used in Swiss High German**    
   - uppercase is "SS" or 1E9E ẞ 1E9E ẞ 

LATIN CAPITAL LETTER
    SHARP S 
  - **not used in Swiss High German**
  - lowercase is 00DF ß
Turns out MySQL is the only kid in town who uses the nonstandard uppercase 1E9E ẞ.

Solution: Changed the conversion to lowercase in the mysql, triggers, ran a quick table update and all is fine now.

My question: Why do the Swiss abhor the uppercase ß?

Dammit I hate character translation shit.