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    • ?
      A Former User @Gators1
      last edited by A Former User

      @gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

      ???

      I’m making a game with a map where everything is a at a position that is a grid reference away from the center. So player X might be at grid reference (-2, 1), and there might be a big impassable rock at (1, 0).

      However, the pathfinding API (the library that tells me how the player moves from one location to another,) requires that each point on the map be expressed/id’d as a single number greater than zero.

      So, how do you take something like (-2,1) or (1,0) and create a single, unsigned, numbers from them like 3 or 14 and then later take 3 or 14 and turn it back into (-2,1) and (1,0)? That’s what my code does.

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      • ?
        A Former User
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        Oh, and:

        a4341b6d-019a-4482-b611-244f75e7e369-image.png

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        • Gators1G
          Gators1 @A Former User
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          @hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

          @gators1 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

          ???

          I’m making a game with a map where everything is a at a position that is a grid reference away from the center. So player X might be at grid reference (-2, 1), and there might be a big impassable rock at (1, 0).

          However, the pathfinding API (the library that tells me how the player moves from one location to another,) requires that each point on the map be expressed as a single number greater than zero.

          So, how do you take something like (-2,1) or (1,0) and create a single, unsigned, numbers from them like 3 or 14 and then later take 3 or 14 and turn it back into (-2,1) and (1,0)? That’s what my code does.

          Wait, did Jerry hire you to work on his game? You know it’s a scam, right?

          alt text

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          • rote7R
            rote7 @A Former User
            last edited by rote7

            @hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

            const BITS_PER_DIMENSION = 2
            const MAX_EXTENT = 1 << (BITS_PER_DIMENSION - 1)
            
            func _ready():
            	print("Bits per dimension: %d, Max extent: %d" % [BITS_PER_DIMENSION, MAX_EXTENT])
            	var ids = []
            	for col in range(-MAX_EXTENT, MAX_EXTENT):
            		var col_normalized = col + MAX_EXTENT
            		var col_shifted = col_normalized << BITS_PER_DIMENSION
            		for row in range(-MAX_EXTENT, MAX_EXTENT):
            			var row_normalized = row + MAX_EXTENT
            			var id = col_shifted + row_normalized
            			ids.push_back(id)
            			print("col: %4d, row: %4d, id: %4d" % [col, row, id])
            	
            	print("**************** Reversed **************")
                    var mask_high = (1 << BITS_PER_DIMENSION) - 1
            	print("mask high: %d" % mask_high)
            	for id in ids:
            		var row_normalized = id & mask_high
            		var row = row_normalized - MAX_EXTENT
            		var col_normalized = id >> BITS_PER_DIMENSION
            		var col = col_normalized - MAX_EXTENT
            		print("col: %4d, row: %4d, id: %4d" % [col, row, id])
            

            Result:

            --- Debugging process started ---
            Godot Engine v3.3.2.stable.official - https://godotengine.org
            OpenGL ES 2.0 Renderer: GeForce 940MX/PCIe/SSE2
            OpenGL ES Batching: ON
             
            Bits per dimension: 2, Max extent: 2
            col:   -2, row:   -2, id:    0
            col:   -2, row:   -1, id:    1
            col:   -2, row:    0, id:    2
            col:   -2, row:    1, id:    3
            col:   -1, row:   -2, id:    4
            col:   -1, row:   -1, id:    5
            col:   -1, row:    0, id:    6
            col:   -1, row:    1, id:    7
            col:    0, row:   -2, id:    8
            col:    0, row:   -1, id:    9
            col:    0, row:    0, id:   10
            col:    0, row:    1, id:   11
            col:    1, row:   -2, id:   12
            col:    1, row:   -1, id:   13
            col:    1, row:    0, id:   14
            col:    1, row:    1, id:   15
            **************** Reversed **************
            mask high: 3
            col:   -2, row:   -2, id:    0
            col:   -2, row:   -1, id:    1
            col:   -2, row:    0, id:    2
            col:   -2, row:    1, id:    3
            col:   -1, row:   -2, id:    4
            col:   -1, row:   -1, id:    5
            col:   -1, row:    0, id:    6
            col:   -1, row:    1, id:    7
            col:    0, row:   -2, id:    8
            col:    0, row:   -1, id:    9
            col:    0, row:    0, id:   10
            col:    0, row:    1, id:   11
            col:    1, row:   -2, id:   12
            col:    1, row:   -1, id:   13
            col:    1, row:    0, id:   14
            col:    1, row:    1, id:   15
            

            My bit shifting days are but a remote memory so you may have to help me understand how

            var id = col_shifted + row_normalized

            does not overwrite the previously stored pattern in col_shifted.

            fffg

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              Blanks @A Former User
              last edited by

              @hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

              Oh, and:

              a4341b6d-019a-4482-b611-244f75e7e369-image.png

              Maybe you should program this forum. That’s award winning content right there.

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              • ?
                A Former User @rote7
                last edited by A Former User

                @rote7 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                @hog said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                const BITS_PER_DIMENSION = 2
                const MAX_EXTENT = 1 << (BITS_PER_DIMENSION - 1)
                
                func _ready():
                	print("Bits per dimension: %d, Max extent: %d" % [BITS_PER_DIMENSION, MAX_EXTENT])
                	var ids = []
                	for col in range(-MAX_EXTENT, MAX_EXTENT):
                		var col_normalized = col + MAX_EXTENT
                		var col_shifted = col_normalized << BITS_PER_DIMENSION
                		for row in range(-MAX_EXTENT, MAX_EXTENT):
                			var row_normalized = row + MAX_EXTENT
                			var id = col_shifted + row_normalized
                			ids.push_back(id)
                			print("col: %4d, row: %4d, id: %4d" % [col, row, id])
                	
                	print("**************** Reversed **************")
                        var mask_high = (1 << BITS_PER_DIMENSION) - 1
                	print("mask high: %d" % mask_high)
                	for id in ids:
                		var row_normalized = id & mask_high
                		var row = row_normalized - MAX_EXTENT
                		var col_normalized = id >> BITS_PER_DIMENSION
                		var col = col_normalized - MAX_EXTENT
                		print("col: %4d, row: %4d, id: %4d" % [col, row, id])
                

                Result:

                --- Debugging process started ---
                Godot Engine v3.3.2.stable.official - https://godotengine.org
                OpenGL ES 2.0 Renderer: GeForce 940MX/PCIe/SSE2
                OpenGL ES Batching: ON
                 
                Bits per dimension: 2, Max extent: 2
                col:   -2, row:   -2, id:    0
                col:   -2, row:   -1, id:    1
                col:   -2, row:    0, id:    2
                col:   -2, row:    1, id:    3
                col:   -1, row:   -2, id:    4
                col:   -1, row:   -1, id:    5
                col:   -1, row:    0, id:    6
                col:   -1, row:    1, id:    7
                col:    0, row:   -2, id:    8
                col:    0, row:   -1, id:    9
                col:    0, row:    0, id:   10
                col:    0, row:    1, id:   11
                col:    1, row:   -2, id:   12
                col:    1, row:   -1, id:   13
                col:    1, row:    0, id:   14
                col:    1, row:    1, id:   15
                **************** Reversed **************
                mask high: 3
                col:   -2, row:   -2, id:    0
                col:   -2, row:   -1, id:    1
                col:   -2, row:    0, id:    2
                col:   -2, row:    1, id:    3
                col:   -1, row:   -2, id:    4
                col:   -1, row:   -1, id:    5
                col:   -1, row:    0, id:    6
                col:   -1, row:    1, id:    7
                col:    0, row:   -2, id:    8
                col:    0, row:   -1, id:    9
                col:    0, row:    0, id:   10
                col:    0, row:    1, id:   11
                col:    1, row:   -2, id:   12
                col:    1, row:   -1, id:   13
                col:    1, row:    0, id:   14
                col:    1, row:    1, id:   15
                

                My bit shifting days are but a remote memory so you may have to help me understand how

                var id = col_shifted + row_normalized

                does not overwrite the previously stored pattern in col_shifted.

                Sure, it’s a combination of three things:

                • they’ve both been converted to unsigned ints (normalized) so the highest bit isn’t set in either number
                • and the lowest bits of col_shifted are 0 because of the shift
                • row_normalized only has the lowest bits set because the size of the number is constrained to +/- MAX_EXTENTS

                So, even with maximum values for row and column, the addition is like:

                00001100 col_shifted +
                00000011 row_normalized =
                --------
                00001111
                

                Edit: by the way, the code i posted earlier was just a proof of concept. My actual use case (which I’ve since coded) has three dimensions. It is using 22 bits (9 + 9 + 4) for a map of 512x512x16 possible locations.

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                  • PakoonP
                    Pakoon
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                    ♙♙♙ Michael Waltz added you to the group.

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                    • tiggerT
                      tigger @Pakoon
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                      @pakoon said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                      E5dT-87WUAQHOqV.jpg

                      Jajajaja!

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                      • rote7R
                        rote7
                        last edited by

                        Time for my favorite frownie: m(

                        fffg

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                        • rote7R
                          rote7
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                          The Case Against SQL - Slashdot

                          The Case Against SQL - Slashdot

                          Long-time Slashdot reader RoccamOccam shares "an interesting take on SQL and its issues from Jamie Brandon (who describes himself as an independent researcher who's built database engines, query planners, compilers, developer tools and interfaces). It's title? "Against SQL." The relational model...

                          Interesting article, I didn’t know that

                          “The SQL spec (part 2 = 1732) pages is more than twice the length of the Javascript 2021 spec (879 pages), almost matches the C++ 2020 spec (1853) pages and contains 411 occurrences of ‘implementation-defined’, occurrences which include type inference and error propagation.”

                          Sweet jesus, double the length of the JS specs…

                          One SQL problem that I couldn’t solve so far is finding a good way to use the output of a single column query (multiple rows, result count must be flexible) as headers and/or fields for a subsequent query.

                          fffg

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                          • KilemallK
                            Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @rote7
                            last edited by

                            @rote7 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                            The Case Against SQL - Slashdot

                            The Case Against SQL - Slashdot

                            Long-time Slashdot reader RoccamOccam shares "an interesting take on SQL and its issues from Jamie Brandon (who describes himself as an independent researcher who's built database engines, query planners, compilers, developer tools and interfaces). It's title? "Against SQL." The relational model...

                            Interesting article, I didn’t know that

                            “The SQL spec (part 2 = 1732) pages is more than twice the length of the Javascript 2021 spec (879 pages), almost matches the C++ 2020 spec (1853) pages and contains 411 occurrences of ‘implementation-defined’, occurrences which include type inference and error propagation.”

                            Sweet jesus, double the length of the JS specs…

                            One SQL problem that I couldn’t solve so far is finding a good way to use the output of a single column query (multiple rows, result count must be flexible) as headers and/or fields for a subsequent query.

                            Dynamic DB-driven filter query? Sounds like a specific SQL client function to me.

                            https://i.imgur.com/hX2CMMZ.jpg

                            Never go full Lithu-
                            Twain

                            No editing is gonna save you now-
                            Wingmann

                            http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/72217/DSC_2528.JPG

                            http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/20416/PTOB 101_resize.jpg

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                            • rote7R
                              rote7
                              last edited by rote7

                              @Kilemall Yes, that was my first idea too. My goal is to replace a whole lot of client logic with a set of queries/subqueries and/or joins. I am looking for a pivot mechanism to transform a set of column(s) into rows.

                              E.g. turn

                              col_1 | col_2
                              param_1 | value_1
                              param_2 | value_2
                              param_foo | value_fo

                              into a dynamic DB operation that delivers a result like the client generated query “SELECT * FROM table WHERE param_1 = value_1 AND param_2 = value_2 AND param_foo = value_foo” without all the string concatenation, input scrubbing etc. pp. going on in the client.

                              fffg

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                              • Gators1G
                                Gators1 @rote7
                                last edited by

                                @rote7 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                The Case Against SQL - Slashdot

                                The Case Against SQL - Slashdot

                                Long-time Slashdot reader RoccamOccam shares "an interesting take on SQL and its issues from Jamie Brandon (who describes himself as an independent researcher who's built database engines, query planners, compilers, developer tools and interfaces). It's title? "Against SQL." The relational model...

                                Interesting article, I didn’t know that

                                “The SQL spec (part 2 = 1732) pages is more than twice the length of the Javascript 2021 spec (879 pages), almost matches the C++ 2020 spec (1853) pages and contains 411 occurrences of ‘implementation-defined’, occurrences which include type inference and error propagation.”

                                Sweet jesus, double the length of the JS specs…

                                One SQL problem that I couldn’t solve so far is finding a good way to use the output of a single column query (multiple rows, result count must be flexible) as headers and/or fields for a subsequent query.

                                I think you need to do it as a stored procedure if I remember right and using the PIVOT function. Basically instead of defining the static columns as in the base function, you dynamically insert them in the stored procedure. If you are doing this as part of another code project, you could do the same by just assembling the text of the SQL script to sent dynamically (e.g. “SELECT “& [column name varIable]&” FROM TABLE_NAME;”

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                                • GustafG
                                  Gustaf @Gators1
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                                  This thread:

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                                  "Let's give it a week! Still a disaster? Let's give it another week…" -Tazz

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                                  • rote7R
                                    rote7
                                    last edited by rote7

                                    @Gators1

                                    Stored procedures are one possible solution. But, and this is a big but, they are DB dependent and I am looking for a way to achieve this with as little as possible DB specific SQL dialect.

                                    As for the client generated SQL, that’s the current solution as a part of a homegrown ORM. I am just curious if it can be done purely in the DB as a way to replace a bunch of DB specific logic during the SQL generation in that ORM.

                                    @Gustaf

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                                    /* insert snappy comment here */

                                    fffg

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User
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                                      I’d snap one off in her

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                                      • Gators1G
                                        Gators1 @rote7
                                        last edited by

                                        @rote7 said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                        @Gators1

                                        Stored procedures are one possible solution. But, and this is a big but, they are DB dependent and I am looking for a way to achieve this with as little as possible DB specific SQL dialect.

                                        As for the client generated SQL, that’s the current solution as a part of a homegrown ORM. I am just curious if it can be done purely in the DB as a way to replace a bunch of DB specific logic during the SQL generation in that ORM.

                                        @Gustaf

                                        linux_babe-wet-shirt.jpg

                                        /* insert snappy comment here */

                                        @rote7
                                        Yeah, I couldn’t find a way other than a stored procedure in Oracle. The function requires you to define the columns in the SQL so it’s static. Nothing in many searches I did changed that, though the procedure thing was suggested. Seems like a stupid design since pivoting often requires dynamic results.

                                        @Gustaf
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                                        • TazzT
                                          Tazz @Gators1
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                                          @gators1 She bumped her chin on something.

                                          GTFO

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                                          • KilemallK
                                            Kilemall Careful, railroad agent @Gustaf
                                            last edited by

                                            @gustaf said in The OFFICIAL programming thread:

                                            This thread:

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                                            This is what I was waiting for, the caterwauls of the computer illiterati! SUCCESS ROTE SUCCESS!

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